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by chr1 2523 days ago
If by "this mess" you mean civilisation in general, then yes, civilisation and science have originated in places where people had to make large scale changes to environment to survive (mesopotamia, egypt, etc.). But then "this mess" is much better than the alternative of small tribes living as hunter gatherers, until planet would run out of CO2 in 600mln years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future