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by baybal2 2539 days ago
> SoftBank fellas said that autonomous cars will be ‘won’ by those who can outspend everyone else.

Listen to them more. What else do you expect fund managers to say?

We will not see any real self driving in our generation, and may be not even after. That is much more for practical consideration than that of technical possibility.

Second to that, just how many self driving and AI startups are plain fraud? The amount of companies getting 9 digit valuations with nothing more than OpenCV hello worlds should make people to at least scratch their heads
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Hydraulix989 2539 days ago
> We will not see any real self driving in our generation, and may be not even after.

I think we can once we build purposeful infrastructure (think cars "on rails" with mesh-coordinated intersections).

> Second to that, just how many self driving and AI startups are plain fraud? The amount of companies getting 9 digit valuations with nothing more than OpenCV hello worlds should make people to at least scratch their heads

Argo, although lesser known (but still out of early Waymo and CMU's Robotics Institute), is every bit as competitive as the other major players. If anything, they are less bombastic than the Elon Musks of the world falsely tweeting that we would all be taking naps in our cars by last year.

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baybal2 2539 days ago
> I think we can once we build purposeful infrastructure (think cars "on rails" with mesh-coordinated intersections).

In that way, surely, but you will need to build a purpose built road network for that. Some self driving buses in China work like that.

New, growing cities with centralised planning can afford that, others not so much.

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Hydraulix989 2539 days ago
Regardless, but if we want SDCs sooner, we need to constrain the problem.
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petra 2539 days ago
>> We will not see any real self driving in our generation,

I agree.

But we'll be driven a large percent of trips, in the near future.

There's on-demand shared(few people in a vehicle) riding - which can be quite cheap AND fast. ridewithvia.com seem to scale with that model pretty fast. A combination of that with strong public transport systems and regulations may beat cars.

But also, a combination of partial self-driving(highway, etc), with remote control driving, could work.

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