[Hydraulix989]

> We will not see any real self driving in our generation, and may be not even after.

I think we can once we build purposeful infrastructure (think cars "on rails" with mesh-coordinated intersections).

> Second to that, just how many self driving and AI startups are plain fraud? The amount of companies getting 9 digit valuations with nothing more than OpenCV hello worlds should make people to at least scratch their heads

Argo, although lesser known (but still out of early Waymo and CMU's Robotics Institute), is every bit as competitive as the other major players. If anything, they are less bombastic than the Elon Musks of the world falsely tweeting that we would all be taking naps in our cars by last year.

[baybal2]

> I think we can once we build purposeful infrastructure (think cars "on rails" with mesh-coordinated intersections).

In that way, surely, but you will need to build a purpose built road network for that. Some self driving buses in China work like that.

New, growing cities with centralised planning can afford that, others not so much.

[Hydraulix989]

Regardless, but if we want SDCs sooner, we need to constrain the problem.