[gbrown]

I humbly suggest that you dig deep and examine whether your opinion has more to do with the anger and frustration you experience while driving than objective fact, or any measureable harm you receive.

[tastygreenapple]

I don't own a car. I just call it like I see it, I don't think cars are great but bicycles seriously randomize the road, it's beyond stupid that 4000 lb cars driven by people who don't even operate the vehicle that well 'share' the road with 10-30 lb bicycles.

[kqr]

> it's beyond stupid that 4000 lb cars driven by people who don't even operate the vehicle that well 'share' the road with 10-30 lb bicycles.

I agree, but how do you get from there to "bicyclists are the problem"? Neither type of driver conduct their vehicle very well (only humans, after all) but one is infinitely more fatal than the other.

[wool_gather]

> it's beyond stupid that 4000 lb cars driven by people who don't even operate the vehicle

I think we can just stop the sentence right there, before we even discuss other users of the road.

[wool_gather]

Er, heh, I should actually have stopped the sentence after "that well", oops.

Revised quote:

> it's beyond stupid that 4000 lb cars [are] driven by people who don't even operate the vehicle that well