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by selectodude 2543 days ago
The airline industry wanted another 737 far more than Boeing wanted to make one. Retiring the 737 puts Southwest and Ryanair’s business model at risk. It’s far more than Boeing at fault here, and airlines are keeping their mouths shut because they’re more than happy to let Boeing take the heat for this.
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lowdose 2543 days ago
I thought Ford already came up with a car instead of the horse his customers asked for.
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tempguy9999 2543 days ago
> It’s far more than Boeing at fault here,

at the risk of being obtuse, why, and who?

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ethbro 2543 days ago
Parent just said.

Why do you think this was a best-selling plane for Boeing? Who's buying it, and why?

The answers to that question and yours are the same: airlines want to decrease operational costs, of which pilot training and specialization is a huge component.

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tempguy9999 2543 days ago
You're blaming those airlines because they wanted to buy boeing's product? Let me rewite that as it comes across...

tempguy9999 happens to fancy a bottle of spirits right now, it is the weekend after all.

tempguy9999 pops down the road to the local offy (short for off-license, brit-english for place that sells booze), and being skint at the moment, I ask for the cheapest thing that will get me sloshed.

Sales bod suggests x. I buy x. I drink x and go to hospital because x contains a big dollop of methanol.

I went to (what I honestly thought was) a reliable supplier that's sold me loads before with perfect satisfaction, and got something dangerous. I did not know it was dangerous, nor was I told it was dangerous. Also, that supplier had a world-class reputation.

I don't accept it's Southwest/Ryanair's fault at all.

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selectodude 2543 days ago
It’s as if you demand a bottle of something exactly like, but not quite exactly methanol and end up with methanol. Southwest demanded a 737 that met criteria the airframe absolutely could not accomplish. It’s Boeing’s fault for building it but it’s Southwest’s fault for buying the impossible.
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tempguy9999 2543 days ago
> It’s Boeing’s fault for building it but it’s Southwest’s fault for buying the impossible.

respectively yes, and, can you show me what southwest actually asked for that was so extreme?

edit: actually, I'm not sure. If mcas had worked correctly (including being documented) then 2 planeloads of people might not have been dead, but AIUI it fought the pilots and sadly won.

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