[tempguy9999]

You're blaming those airlines because they wanted to buy boeing's product? Let me rewite that as it comes across...

tempguy9999 happens to fancy a bottle of spirits right now, it is the weekend after all.

tempguy9999 pops down the road to the local offy (short for off-license, brit-english for place that sells booze), and being skint at the moment, I ask for the cheapest thing that will get me sloshed.

Sales bod suggests x. I buy x. I drink x and go to hospital because x contains a big dollop of methanol.

I went to (what I honestly thought was) a reliable supplier that's sold me loads before with perfect satisfaction, and got something dangerous. I did not know it was dangerous, nor was I told it was dangerous. Also, that supplier had a world-class reputation.

I don't accept it's Southwest/Ryanair's fault at all.

[selectodude]

It’s as if you demand a bottle of something exactly like, but not quite exactly methanol and end up with methanol. Southwest demanded a 737 that met criteria the airframe absolutely could not accomplish. It’s Boeing’s fault for building it but it’s Southwest’s fault for buying the impossible.

[tempguy9999]

> It’s Boeing’s fault for building it but it’s Southwest’s fault for buying the impossible.

respectively yes, and, can you show me what southwest actually asked for that was so extreme?

edit: actually, I'm not sure. If mcas had worked correctly (including being documented) then 2 planeloads of people might not have been dead, but AIUI it fought the pilots and sadly won.