[ourmandave]

My favorite part was how s-l-o-w-l-y the "How Can We Help?" dialog sank when I clicked Send to Bottom.

I also appreciate how it would reappear and block the interface.

But kind of disappointed it didn't instantly reappear if you moused over it. Or that it didn't randomly bounce for attention in my peripheral vision.

And to the person out there thinking of making a front end framework based on this, just don't do it man!

But if you do, I suppose you could call it BootAss or HateStrap.

[hermitdev]

I had this happen today, in the wild, after visiting a HN linked Wired article. A few seconds on the page, a banner appears, blocking about a quarter of the page. Close it, start reading the article. 30 seconds later, the original banner reappears, again blocking a quarter of the page, and I close it again. I continue reading, think I hit a "click to read more button", another click. Keep reading, maybe two thirds of the way through the article, get bombarded with a modal dialog asking me subscribe to an email newsletter.

Who the fuck is implementing these things and how do they justify this shit as contributing to the user experience? I came to your aite to read an article, not to be bombarded with ridiculously distracting prompts, banners and subscribe prompts - and this completely ignoring the intrusiveness of the ads with autoplaying video and audio.

Shit like this really makes me rethink visiting sites like Wired, though they are by far not the only ones doing this, just the one that happened to me today.

Why do web devs think this a good thing to do? Pull this crap in a desktop, sure as he'll would uninstall.

/rant

[WrtCdEvrydy]

> Who the fuck is implementing these things

A developer being told by management that Optimizely showed this design gives a 20% boost in conversion.

I don't trust this tooling after creating 3 control groups, one A group, one B group and having the three control groups report different values (Control 1 was better than Control 3 but worse than A but better than B)

[whymauri]

I actually thought the name 'Optimizely' was a hypothetical parody startup, haha.

[WrtCdEvrydy]

Nope, it's owned by google and it's fucking expensive (surprise!)

[alanh]

when i see an interesting article, i just send it to Pocket (or Instapaper). I do this partially for time-shifting and/or text-to-speech purposes, but avoiding crap like this is a major benefit.

[joegahona]

It's not "devs" -- it's shortsighted business staff focusing on short-term goals rather than longterm value and user happiness. Now that Wired is paywall and has been upfront about its shift to paywall and affiliate revenue, be prepared for more dark patterns like the ones you articulated.

[DonHopkins]

Reminds me of Marc Canter's online social network "PeopleAggregator": "sort of like a MySpace in a box", "we support Facebook import/export!" -- aka "PeopleAggravator"!

Intro to PeopleAggregator (turn your volume down first)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTEf4amE74

Gnomedex 6.0: Marc Canter on People Aggregator (in which Marc explains why he doesn't have blue balls)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Mesx1oRdo

https://techcrunch.com/2006/06/27/a-look-inside-peopleaggreg...