[rhino369]

Yea but if American Airlines refuses to fly me to Santornini for vacation to save the planet, I'm going to fly United instead. So who is really responsible for that climate change? Me or the airline? I think it's pretty much me unless they are being wasteful.

And if you just say "shut them both down" then you are pretty much just forcing personal lifestyle changes.

Consumer demand must drive nearly all carbon use right?

[WhompingWindows]

That's a very market-centric viewpoint. I agree individuals should reduce their footprint, however govts and corporations are very thirsty for energy-hungry activities (military, infrastructure, not to mention subsidies/corruption) that the people themselves had no say in. Consumers are important, but many other factors drive carbon emissions, too.

Ideally, we'd just have a carbon tax on any emitting behavior, that way govts, corporations, and citizens alike are all incentivized to clean up their act.