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by geophile 2556 days ago
To be at all interesting, this would have to have a good keyboard (as in the 2015 MBP), and an optional touchbar.
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For what its worth, I just picked up the latest gen and the keyboard seems like a real improvement in both feel and noise. The Touch Bar still sucks, but I am happy with the keyboard.
I've got one of the latest ones too, I still think it sucks more than the 2015 ones.

I used to keep them on my desk partly as screen estate, now keep the lid closed, leave it under the desk and use a bluetooth keyboard in the hope it'll survive.

It's definitely different than 2015 so if you require more key travel, it won't be for you. But I am pretty happy with it.
I tried a recent one and it's definitely better, but still not nearly as good as the old ones.
I'm perfectly fine with it having a touchbar, if only there was a physical ESC button.
Real escape and full row of real F- keys. Just push the Touchbar above it, so we can power it down and ignore it (or run cute screensavers on it while plugged in).

The whole concept makes no sense. "Don't look at the computer's screen when you work, look down at your keyboard instead!" It is like an anti-touch typing gimmick, the tagline should be "become a worse typelist today!"

If you want to stay sane with touch bar, buy one of those keyboard covers for non-touchbar models with ESC/Fn keys, pad the Fn keys with some pieces of rubber. Then you can have have some poor man's tactile feedback. The very latest keyboard is improvement both in sound and feel, latest CPUs are very fast, just the touchbar kills the overall impression.
I'd be perfectly fine having a touchbar if it were in addition to the f-keys.
So not quite perfectly fine since no iteration of the Touch Bar has a physical ESC button?
I would like to have my "pro" ports back, standard usb3 alongside usbc, magnetic power plug, possibly an hdmi port. I've used the hdmi countless times over the years in unexpected situations but I guess carrying an adapter around would be ok.
Those features are never coming back, but you can dream.
Agree. I'm holding out on my 2015 MBP, no way I'll upgrade to one of the crappy keyboard shitters.
With the addition of iOS apps, would it be too much to ask for a touchscreen?
Do you ever consider ipad pro?
Even as a (former) heavy iPad Pro user, I don't think the iPad Pro is a viable replacement for a MBP with touchscreen.

My ideal MBP has a touch screen, no touch bar, the old smaller trackpad, and better keyboard, in a form factor something like a Surface Pro.

Yes, definitely. Even with the improvements in the latest version, it still comes up way short of what you get from Windows/MacOS.
And a battery that doesn't explode