[a012]

Do you ever consider ipad pro?

[cgriswald]

Even as a (former) heavy iPad Pro user, I don't think the iPad Pro is a viable replacement for a MBP with touchscreen.

My ideal MBP has a touch screen, no touch bar, the old smaller trackpad, and better keyboard, in a form factor something like a Surface Pro.

[madoublet]

Yes, definitely. Even with the improvements in the latest version, it still comes up way short of what you get from Windows/MacOS.