[singron]

How about this: your copyright claim accuracy becomes a multiplier for monetization payouts. E.g. if 100% of claims are correct, you keep all monetization. If 10% of claims are correct, you only get 10% of monetization.

Also, if Google can show that the copyright claims are incorrect, then they get to keep the difference.

Now copyright holders are incentivized to make accurate claims and Google is incentivized to find inaccurate claims.

[cordite]

Is it fair for Google to take the pay instead of the content creator just because they were hit with a false copyright claim?

[asveikau]

That doesn't make sense for the unambiguous cases of copyright violation. The copyright holder never agreed for the content to be monetized by Google and under their terms. Google can't just make up some revenue sharing policy and act like that's the law.

The content owner should be able to negotiate a rate with Google or choose not to, not have to be forcibly entered into it.

[DuskStar]

The 'content owner' can always choose to opt out and file DMCA requests instead of using ContentID, though. If they don't like Google's system... They don't have to use it.

But of course that just means that things get taken down - and no revenue goes to the claimant. Great for protecting your copyright, good for trolling, really shitty for extracting money from the works of others.

[burfog]

The DMCA may be rough on active content creators, but it is far worse on inactive ones and on the public interest in having that material available. ContentID has the same trouble. Consider:

* creator is in the hospital

* creator is dead, and the heirs know nothing about dealing with copyright claims

* creator is hiking the Appalachian Trail for the next year

* creator is in jail for something unrelated

* creator got deployed on a submarine

* creator now has Alzheimer's disease and can't remember the internet

ContentID becomes a trivial way to steal money, and the DMCA becomes a trivial way to suppress the creator's work.

[sam0x17]

But Google could, say, bury their content in the search algorithm.

[mentos]

Could tweak this so that only 25% of revenue is at stake for this penalty if it’s too harsh but I like 100%

[sam0x17]

Or just ban the channels of the networks that abuse the system. Would be hilarious if disney got their channel banned for not understanding fair use laws. Why can't google be more like that :/

[Causality1]

How about every time a company files a frivolous claim they lose their ability to claim anything for an ever-increasing amount of time? An hour, 12 hours, 24 hours, etc up to a year.

[sam0x17]

Haha or they automatically have one of their own videos demonetized.

[bryanrasmussen]

since the ability to make copyright claims is required by law and there are requirements as to how platforms must respond to claims then any fix to the system that imagines ignoring the law in favor of its fix is bound to fail.

[dahfizz]

The problem is: who decides if a copyright claim is correct? Actually investigating and deciding on these things manually is cost prohibitive.