[rxhernandez]

Your argument that it exists _for_ anything is a bit hollow. What do superstitions exist _for_? What does religion exist _for_? What does the shame of being on the LGBTQ spectrum exist _for_? What does fat shaming exist _for_?

That something exists and that people are using it doesn't at all mean that the use is still valid, that it ever was valid, or that there are not much more fruitful alternatives.

Moreover your argument that you need guilt and shame to have a good society is the same sort of argument that Christians use against atheists and their lack of religion. The reason I don't go raise hell is simply because helping other people is what has been burned into my mind as a child. I don't hand a homeless person money because I'm worried about the shame of not doing it, nor do I feel any real happiness from when I do it; I do it because I believe it is my duty (which is the same reason I rarely miss deadlines).

[drdeca]

> what has been burned into my mind as a child

How was this done?

[rxhernandez]

With my father doing the complete opposite by being abusive as possible without physically touching me.

[drdeca]

:( I’m sorry to hear that,

I don’t mean to suggest that shame/guilt aren’t sometimes (often?) overused.

I just think that attempting to entirely excise them is a mistake (and that they are at times useful in moderation for certain things).