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by henryaj 2654 days ago
High levels of salt, fat, nitrates. Is this a serious question?
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Completely serious. I am not sure I am in the mood for another long post sourcing my claims, so feel free to question any of what I say:

- The idea of limiting salt and fats in the diet comes from very misguided health recommendation based on bad science from the 70s motivated by commercial reasons.

- Bacon actually has quite a healthy lipidic profile even with those recommendations (50% monounsaturated rich in Oleic acid, like olive oil; not that saturated fat is actually unhealthy...)

- Same for nitrates; bacon doesn't even have that much, nitrates are not proven to be harmful and most of nitrites/nitrates are endogenous (70-90%) anyway...

I admire you courage @amval... the "vegan police" have been notified and will be here shortly.

Here is a website that supports your position: that meat is actually VERY good for us... just look at all the case studies:

http://meatheals.com

I wouldn't go that far. IGF-1 which is released due to the consumption of protein (particularly leucine) has been shown to be responsible for increases in mTOR signaling which is a nutrient sensor responsible for initiating cell growth in some forms of cancer, see this study for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392529/.

In effect, leucine and IGF-1 increases mTOR signalling which is responsible for growth, the opposite effect of calorie restriction (which turns off mTOR and has been shown to reduce the growth of cancer).

That NCBI study (which I am 100% was not scientific) was funded by the Winkler Family Foundation. Yep, the guy who produced the movie "Rocky" funded this. And the Winklers have direct ties to the evil Monsanto Corporation: https://usrtk.org/tag/winkler-family-foundation/ Monsanto (now Bayer) wants to eliminate meat eating. So, no thanks... I will pass your "tip."
This isn't the only study, it's just an example. Perhaps you should read into mTOR, then you wouldn't have to take my word for it.
Are you saying those three things are unhealthy?
They are in the quantities that bacon is eaten at. Who eats just one strip of bacon?
Lots of things are unhealthy if eaten in excess. Is the argument really just that bacon is unhealthy because it tastes so good?