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by PavlikPaja 2648 days ago
What you actually see if you study aging carefully is that it isn't anything like accumulation of damage the body cannot repair, it's the accumulation of damage the body can repair.

In fact, among the most consistent things you can see is the accumulation of iron, and to a lesser extent other minerals, such as calcium. The body seems to have a really big trouble regulating those minerals, it doesn't even have its own way to get rid of excess iron, the only way you can get rid of it is blood loss.

Now, what does it mean? One thing, the body doesn't really makes much distinctions when absorbing metals so that when there is excess iron, it cannot absorb other divalent metals without poisoning itself with iron. So it cannot absorb manganese without absorbing too much iron, and manganese is essential for preventing oxidative damage.

A second thing is, the experiments on rats show that lanthanum (and possibly other rare earths) change the homeostasis in the brain so that the amount of iron decreases, while it normally accumulates with age. Multiple rare earths have been shown to bind preferably to proteins, usually over calcium, but possibly also other metal ions, zinc seems to be a kind of universal element that can bind to almost any place that isn't taken. Neurons even seem to dramatically increase in capacity (with each neuron carrying its own signal, instead of many almost exactly the same thing over and over) as the concentration of lanthanum increases in vitro. (it's worth noting though, that lanthanum has been seen as an essential nutrient for decades in China, so if it cured aging, it would be known)

I thing we need to consider the possibility that there is no such a thing as aging, but is the result of some sort of imbalance caused by early agriculture, metallurgy, or whatever human activity that changed the environment in a way that our bodies, and other mammal bodies have no way of dealing with. The rumors of longevity from history and various isolated places are seen as myths, but they may not all be.

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Gonnna need citations for all of that..
Iron is known to accumulate with age: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23237353 It has even been proposed as the mechanism of caloric restriction: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2481398/ Here is some literature review that I just found: https://res.mdpi.com/metals/metals-05-02070/article_deploy/m... The absence of iron excretion mechanism shouldn't be controversial, here is the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_iron_metabolism#Iron_rec...

Both iron and manganese are transported by the same molecules and the nutrients inhibit each other, e.g.:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2058577

The need of Mn for MnSOD also shouldn't be controverisal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOD2

lanthanum changing the concentration of iron in the brain: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037842740...

Review of lanthanide effects, cites the higher affinity of certain lanthanides to proteins: http://www.actabp.pl/pdf/4_2000/1107.pdf

Lanthanum increaseing the capacity of neural transmission, (together with https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)31646-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00198-7?utm_sourc...: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Acute-functional-neuro...

The longevity myths are well known, there are local myths of 100+ year old mountain men, (caucasus + some other range in south asia) and the myths of ancient "golden age" when people didn't age are almost universal, and many of the earliest written sources insist on "implausible" ages of certain people. Surprisingly many religions (virtually all, in fact) agree that people started aging when they previously were not and longevity was the normal state until aging was inflicted on people, only the reasoning why it happened varies. - all the abrahamic religions, a very important part of hinduism mentioned in many texts, the greek religion, sumerian, etc.