[anon-e-moose]

This ignores all research already done on the brain and nutrition, and also common sense. Its pretty well understood that the brain runs on glucose. Now of course if you eat too much or eat shitty food, you're going to have an insulin spike and sugar crash, and if you're eating too much you probably have other health problems that aren't helping.

Healthy eating, good body weight, and regular exercise sharpens the brain.

Edit: The number of people jumping on board with this "theory" in his blog comments makes me despair for the state of nutrition and health education.

Learn you a physiology: http://www.fi.edu/learn/brain/carbs.html

[robchez]

This ignores all research already done on the brain and nutrition, and also common sense.

On Common Sense:

The human brain/body evolved to run on minimal glucose. Of the past 2million years of human evolution, only 10,000(from the agrarian revolution) of those years have we consumed excess carbohydrates in the forms of grains etc. Prior to that we were hunter gatherers and ate copious amounts of fat and meat with some vegetables (very low in carbohydrates) and every now and then fruits when they were in season.

We also didnt have the luxury of eating as soon as we woke up, we had to hunt for our food, so missing breakfast would have happened more times than not. Again our bodies adapted to that.

On All Research:

As mentioned in comments below our bodies run perfectly well in states of ketosis. With ketone-bodies providing a much more efficient longer energy burn than carbohydrates. (Think of carbohydrates as kindling and ketones as the logs). Many athletes (particularly the CrossFit athletes) run on ketogenic diets and get better performance. Here are some papers/articles etc. I dug up quickly, but there are many more.

[1] Your brain on ketones

[2] Weston price Foundation, Lots of references

[3] Ketogenic Diets and Physical Performance

[4] The metabolic effects of low-carbohydrate diets and incorporation into a biochemistry course

[5] Report picking apart the latest dietry guidelines.

[1] http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com/2010/08/your-brai...

[2] http://www.westonaprice.org/

[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC524027/

[4] http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bmb.2005.49403302...

[5] http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/PIIS0899900710002893/fu...

edit: formatting

[chancho]

This is a great comment and I appreciate the links.

But the caveman explanation for health and nutrition always leaves me cold. Yeah ok we can pretty much gauge what proto-humans ate and why it was good for them, but what if it made them miserable? It's romantic to think that early humans lived in the garden of lo-carb eden, but what if it really fucking sucked? What if they were just plain hugnry all the time, it was miserable and only the strong survived?

Don't get me wrong I think most of the conclusions are right, but I prefer evidence collected from modern people to justify those conclusions. Appealing to evolutionary biology is only valid for survival and reproduction. It doesn't say anything about happiness, fulfillment, etc.

I seem to recall some crackpot theory that low-calorie diets (ie., borderline starvation) increase your lifespan. That would certainly jive with the caveman hypothesis, but does it sound like fun? How miserable are we willing to make ourselves for a few extra years in a nursing home? That's probably a false dichotomy, but you get the point.

[tapp]

> I seem to recall some crackpot theory that low-calorie diets increase your lifespan

Not sure the 'crackpot theory' pejorative is appropriate. Calorie restriction (with adequate nutrition) has been documented to increase both median and maximum lifespan across a number of species. I believe primate studies are in progress now.

I agree that perpetually hungry (and cold) sounds like an unpleasant way to go through life, but that doesn't make the adherents crackpots.

[_grrr]

Calorie restricted diets are known to increase the lifespan of rats by up to 20%. In Japan there is even a philosophy around this: "Hara Hachi Bu – eat until you are 80% full" http://fooddemocracy.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/hara-hachi-bu-...

[beagle3]

> but I prefer evidence collected from modern people to justify those conclusions.

No you don't. You want to reconfirm your bias. (I assume by "Evidence" you mean something that lives up to scientific standards. If it doesn't, I have no idea what you are talking about).

> It doesn't say anything about happiness, fulfillment, etc.

Science almost never has anything to say about these (or anything else which is this subjective).

> I seem to recall some crackpot theory that low-calorie diets (ie., borderline starvation) increase your lifespan.

But that is very well supported by science (on mice and fruit flies; not on humans YET). If you were interested in evidence, you wouldn't call it "crackpot", especially not considering ...

> does it sound like fun? How miserable are we willing to make ourselves for a few extra years in a nursing home?

By this standard, you should be doing booze and drugs all day. I've heard they're really fun (and they cut off those long years of old age!)

I really can't understand people whose thought process can emit things like:

> That's probably a false dichotomy, but you get the point.

"I can't find an example that supports my point. So I'm making one up that is probably wrong. That's totally legit, and we should continue the discussion assuming my made-up example is fact"

[Evgeny]

What if they were just plain hugnry all the time, it was miserable and only the strong survived?

I think the point is that regardles of being miserable, hungry or happy, the bodies adapted to the circumstances. Now what happens if you take the body that is best adapted to being hungry for periods of time and place it in the limitless food environment? Chances are that you will get a very happy and a very overweight person, with a shortened lifespan.

That would certainly jive with the caveman hypothesis, but does it sound like fun? How miserable are we willing to make ourselves for a few extra years in a nursing home?

I think that's a good point and not quite a false dichotomy. There probably are not enough studies to confidently state that "reducing calories by X% lengthens lifespan by Y%" but if the choice is "eat everything that will make me happy" and "be alive from my 80th to 85th birthday", different people would make different choices.

[jamii]

We became optimized for the environment we were in. Thats not the same thing as saying that that environment is optimal for us. We adapted to being cold and wet but chucking out your clothes and umbrella wont make you healthier.

Always remember - poison ivy is natural, pants aren't.

[Evgeny]

Okay, I see the point. It is quite obvious with the pants - "pants keep me warm and protect from poison ivy, therefore they are good for me". With food, not so obvious. "Chips and pizza with coke are tasty and make me happy, therefore they are good for me". Doesn't work the same way. In fact, I can't easily think of any artificial food that is definitely good for humans.

[jamii]

Thats not what I was saying at all. My point is that just because we are adapted to a certain diet doesn't make that diet optimal. Much modern food is undeniably unhealthy but starving yourself because our ancestors were hungry too is scientifically questionable. Nutrition is complicated but there is no reason we can't do better than our ancestors.

[brandnewlow]

I've dropped about 16 lbs and feel great on a diet like this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1884270

[anon-e-moose]

Very interesting. However, the time frame doesn't work in this example, those studies showed reduced performance for a week, and then back to baseline or slightly above.

[robchez]

You are right, for the first week or two, your do feel like crap. As your body switches to using ketone bodies as energy, you go through a real down phase. However when you come out, you feel great.

Anecdotally (I hate anecdotes about health, but argh) I used to need to eat constantly to keep my energy up. I'd have breakfast, and by the time lunch came around I had to eat, or face passing out. These days I can skip breakfast (or just have a coffee with lots of cream) and that will keep my going until 2-3pm where I will have a lunch. You have no idea how liberating it is not to always be thinking about food.

[anon-e-moose]

So I've read 1,4, and 5 now, and found them wildly interesting. One begins to get a picture of a protein and fat focused paleo diet, providing great endurance, and our modern and reccommended carb focused diet as a serious kludge.

[robchez]

It really is an eye opener. I was blown away when I started reading about it all. Some good resources if you're interested.

[1] Marks Daily Apple (Website and forum a wealth of information)

[2] Nora Gedgautis Book Primal Body Primal Mind

[3] Robb Wolfs The Paleo Solution Book

[4] PaleoNu - A doctor who pushes a paleo style diet.

[1] http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

[2] http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/

[3] http://www.robbwolf.com

[4] http://www.paleonu.com/

[Evgeny]

It really is an eye opener. I was blown away when I started reading about it all. Some good resources if you're interested.

I totally agree to that. Those sources changed the way I was thinking about human health and nutrition completely. To be quite honest, I was not thinking about these topics very much before. I would also add a source that kind of got me started:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/

Stephan appears to be a very knowledgeable guy, he is probably the least "radical" in his approaches, writes on a variety of topics and is not afraid to change his opinions when faced with contradicting evidence.

Also, blog of Dr. Mike Eades http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ and Hyperlipid http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/

[unignorant]

> Its pretty well understood that the brain runs on glucose

Actually, most of the brain's energy needs can also be met with ketone bodies, which come from fat (either stored or dietary). So it's possible that he may be running on ketones in the morning, after a night's fast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet#Diet

That said, I agree with you that his theory is based almost entirely on speculation, and should be treated as such.

[dgallagher]

From what I've read, it'll take more than a nightly fast to trigger Ketosis:

If the diet is changed from a highly glycemic diet to a diet that does not provide sufficient carbohydrate to replenish glycogen stores, the body goes through a set of stages to enter ketosis. During the initial stages of this process, the adult brain does not burn ketones; however, the brain makes immediate use of this important substrate for lipid synthesis in the brain. After about 48 hours of this process, the brain starts burning ketones in order to more directly utilize the energy from the fat stores that are being depended upon, and to reserve the glucose only for its absolute needs, thus avoiding the depletion of the body's protein store in the muscles.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis#Diet

[brunov]

No, the brain can only use ketone bodies after days of carbohydrate deprivation. You can't achieve ketosis overnight by skipping breakfast.

If there's not enough glycogen in the liver and/or muscles and you are not getting any sugar from food, the body starts degrading your bodies' protein to convert glucogenic aminoacids to glucose, and thus maintain blood glucose levels and avoid fainting.

[Evgeny]

If there's not enough glycogen in the liver and/or muscles and you are not getting any sugar from food, the body starts degrading your bodies' protein to convert glucogenic aminoacids to glucose

But if you have dietary glucogenic aminoacids, they will be converted to glucose and not your body protein.

I would adjust your comment above: "and you are not getting any sugar or glucogenic aminoacids from food"

[brunov]

You are right, of course.

[anon-e-moose]

Farther down in that diet you can see that its not considered healthy as a general practice:

"The ketogenic diet is not a benign, holistic or natural treatment for epilepsy; as with any serious medical therapy, there may be complications."

"Long-term use of the ketogenic diet in children increases the risk of retarded growth, bone fractures, and kidney stones. "

In other words, it does not seem that the body should be run this way long term.

[icegreentea]

Indeed. In fact, this was the whole deal with the Atkin's diet (remember that??) a while ago. Zero carbs, but craploads of protein and fat will force the body into long term ketone usage.

Basically, your body runs on glucose. Everything else is a stop gap for you to get more glucose.

[Evgeny]

Basically, your body runs on glucose. Everything else is a stop gap for you to get more glucose.

But don't forget that the body can make quite a lot of the glucose using a process called gluconeogenesis. And substances like amino acids, glycerol or products of fatty acid oxidation are used as precursors.

So, in essence - yes, it runs on glucose, but glucose does not necessarily come from dietary carbohydrates.

[robchez]

I believe that study of the diet was also severely caloric restrictive, and the food the kids were given were vegetable franken-oils etc.

You can go on a ketogenic diet and eat plenty of healthy fats and some vegetable produce.

[Evgeny]

Learn you a physiology: http://www.fi.edu/learn/brain/carbs.html

I searched this page for "gluconeogenesis" but did not find it. So basically they completely ignore the fact that the body can produce glucose from amino acids, products of fatty acid oxidation etc?

Edit: Also, the brain only needs a certain amount of glucose - somewhere in the 30-60g per day area. And if the blood sugar is low, the brain will have priority uptaking glucose from blood. So yes, it needs glucose, but one does not need to consume half of his calories or more from carbs - a mere 100g per day or even less would probably be enough.

[robchez]

Exactly right.

100g (or about 400 calories) should be the upper limit of your carbohydrate consumption. Your body will run fine on it.

[dgallagher]

Edit: The number of people jumping on board with this "theory" in his blog comments makes me despair for the state of nutrition and health education.

Most people on the internet have no idea what they're taking about when it comes to food, nutrition, and diets. The same applies to medical advice.

Many people read one thing and repeat it elsewhere, which is an issue if the source was incorrect. Also people love talking about their personal experiences. That's a problem seeing as it's not scientific (no control experiment, only one individual involved, etc...).

A big part of this is that the nutritional industry is not regulated by any body, such as the FDA. You end up with lots of products and advice that adds up to little more than snake oil. Hence fad diets.

What's the best advice to take? That from a doctor, dietitian, or nutritionist. Not some yahoo on the internet.

[Evgeny]

What's the best advice to take? That from a doctor, dietitian, or nutritionist. Not some yahoo on the internet.

Well, that's a good advice in theory, but did you notice how many doctors, dietitians and nutritionists have contradicting points of view?

[dgallagher]

Good point. I'm not sure how many do, but it does happen. I'd love to see data regarding this (e.g. how widespread is it?).

Most doctors are essentially statisticians doing something like this:

1) Formulate a list of patient symptoms, ensuring credibility (e.g. are you lying/hiding/unaware-of something?).

2) Match those up with whatever diagnosis is statistically most likely.

3) Take "medicine X" and see what happens.

4) Cured? If not, go to step 2, repeat.

Step 2 can be subjective, especially if there are several likely causes. This can lead to different doctors giving different diagnosis. The more times a doctor has seen the same problem, the more likely he/she will be correct the first time. Specialists come in handy here, gathering lots of experience regarding only specific conditions.

For rare diseases, hard to diagnose, or those which aren't fully understood, repeating steps #2 - #4 is going to be more likely. This is where you'll find the greatest differences of "opinion".

Step #1 can be repeated too if conditions change, of course.

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Regarding dietitians/nutritionists, I'm not sure how they work. I'd imagine most of their disagreements come from studies contradicting one another. Results of studies can be questioned as well.

There is some overlap with the statistical nature of doctors, though. Pinpointing food allergies/intolerances requires eliminating foods, one-at-a-time, from your diet and seeing what happens. I'm sure there are blood tests which can be done too.

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In general though, it's not wise to discredit professionals just because they may disagree on certain things in their field. Unless the field is fully understood (I'm not aware of one which is!), you'll see that.

Perhaps I should rephrase my advice:

What's the best advice to take? That from "multiple" doctors, dietitians, or nutritionists. Not some yahoos on the internet.

A second or third opinion reduces the likelihood of errors, while limiting received advice only from those educated and qualified to give it.

[Evgeny]

In general though, it's not wise to discredit professionals just because they may disagree on certain things in their field. Unless the field is fully understood (I'm not aware of one which is!), you'll see that.

I'd say that the field is quite poorly understood. Here's an article (long!) that kind of sums it up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t....

What's the best advice to take? That from "multiple" doctors, dietitians, or nutritionists. Not some yahoos on the internet.

A second or third opinion reduces the likelihood of errors, while limiting received advice only from those educated and qualified to give it.

I found out that even after that, I'm tempted to try and do some of my own research, and then apply the advice to myself and see how well it works ...

[dgallagher]

I'll have to read that article when I have some free time. Thanks for the link. :)

While I do like some of the messages and ideas Michael Pollan (author of linked article, plus Food Inc.) is promoting, I always take him with a grain of skepticism. He's correct sometimes, and incorrect or questionable others. A common symptom of someone who's not a doctor or researcher in the field.

I personally classify him in the same arena as Michael Moore. Not to be ignored, but instead to be questioned for every made claim, requiring non-cherry picked studies and scientific research to back him up.

[jules]

You know why? Because the effects are not that big. It's hard to detect small effects.

Here's what I do: I eat whenever I feel like it, whatever I feel like, as much as I feel like. But when I'm full, I stop.

For breakfast this can be:

    - yogurt with banana and jam and sugar
    - slices of bread with cheese and tomato and olive oil heated in the oven
    - a bar of chocolate
    - bread with boiled egg and mayonnaise
    - bread with butter and cheese/jam/other
    - nothing
    - pizza left over from the previous night (home cooked of course ;)
    - any other left overs
    - fruit
    - when I'm hungry, a bowl of pasta

According to every eating school of thought, at least half of these are very bad. Yet I am perfectly healthy. Not overeating (and undereating) is like 10 times more important than what you eat, as long as you get enough of all the nutrients you need.

Don't obsess over what you eat until there is clear evidence. Eat things you like to eat.

[Evgeny]

According to every eating school of thought, at least half of these are very bad. Yet I am perfectly healthy.

What I personally would be worried about is the long-term effects. Unfortunately, these would be very hard to pinpoint as it would be virtually impossible to get enough people to volunteer eating a certain diet, without much fluctuation, for some 30 years or so. And even if such a study would happen, the endless argument would start: "But the diet A contained X, and diet B lacked Y, so obviously we can conclude ..." etc.

Not overeating (and undereating) is like 10 times more important than what you eat, as long as you get enough of all the nutrients you need.

This may or may not be true, and also we could argue about the factor forever. I would say it's way less than 10, especially in the long-term, but I have no way to prove it of course.

Don't obsess over what you eat until there is clear evidence. Eat things you like to eat.

Well, there is the "classic" - "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston Price. (Available online at http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html) He traveled around the world and watched what happened to primitive societies when they introduced western foods in their diets. I read it briefly, and he made an emphasis on dental health, but literally introduction of white flour, sugar, polished rice and canned food produced a huge drop in dental health.

[jules]

> Unfortunately, these would be very hard to pinpoint as it would be virtually impossible to get enough people to volunteer eating a certain diet

Perhaps you don't need to force people to eat certain things. You can observe what they eat and how healthy they are. If you have a large enough sample set you may be able to reach some conclusions. The internet and recent developments on it like things like Facebook may help a lot: if people start recording what they eat on a regular basis you may be able to get a huge and diverse sample quite easily.

> I would say it's way less than 10, especially in the long-term, but I have no way to prove it of course.

From what I've seen I disagree. I know people who eat healthy according to conventional wisdom, but they eat too much. As a result they are fat and unhealthy. I also know people who get at least half of their calories from things that are considered unhealthy like sweets, coke and potato chips, but because they don't overeat they look healthy. Now it's true that body weight is not the only aspect of health, but it is a very big one and the only one that you can measure by looking at somebody...

> I read it briefly, and he made an emphasis on dental health, but literally introduction of white flour, sugar, polished rice and canned food produced a huge drop in dental health.

It's an interesting study but this is not surprising, since bacteria love these things too. Fortunately we have toothbrushes.

That said the study is highly biased. The "native" people are always laughing in the photos and the "modernized" people are looking sad.

[dgordon]

>That said the study is highly biased. The "native" people are always laughing in the photos and the "modernized" people are looking sad.

But this doesn't explain away the order-of-magnitude differences in dental health Price found everywhere he went between people living on traditional diets (who typically didn't have toothbrushes, either) and those living on processed diets.

[drdo]

The problem is that doctor, dietitian, or nutritionist don't even agree with each other.

Also, have you actually checked what the FDA nutritional recommendations are? They are really terrible advice that goes against actual science.

[dgallagher]

The problem is that doctor, dietitian, or nutritionist don't even agree with each other.

Look above for another question I answered, similar to this one, which I posted shortly after you posted yours. :)

Also, have you actually checked what the FDA nutritional recommendations are? They are really terrible advice that goes against actual science.

Any examples?

I think you meant USDA nutritional recommendations:

http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/DGAs2010-DGACReport.htm

In my root comment, I meant regulation of nutritional supplements (which is handled by the FDA). This is different than dietary recommendations (e.g. what quantity of vitamins/minerals to eat).

I'm not aware of any problems there are with the USDA's nutritional recommendations, though I'm sure there are some here and there (please share, I'd love to know!). It wouldn't be fair to discredit the entire document if there is an error, however.

It's a living document too, being updated every few years (the 2005 version should be replaced with the 2010 version soon). As more studies are done and more is learned about nutrition and humans, it gets revised.

[robchez]

The only problem is my doctor wants me to take X drug. My dietitian has type 2 diabetes yet still pushes to eat a grain filled breakfast and my nutritionist wants me to go on a cleansing diet of nothing but vegetables and fruits.

[dgallagher]

The only problem is my doctor wants me to take X drug.

Try getting a second opinion from 1 or 2 other, unrelated doctors. Do they come to the same conclusion or not? Doctors aren't always 100% correct the first time (see my longish-response to another comment in this root thread).

My dietitian has type 2 diabetes yet still pushes to eat a grain filled breakfast and my nutritionist wants me to go on a cleansing diet of nothing but vegetables and fruits.

Lack of communication between the two? I'd get them in the same room together and watch them debate. Also this is another area where a second or third opinion would be good to have.

[robchez]

Some drugs are just pushed harder than others because doctors just don't know (and can't know) all the facts. Take statins for example. My doctor and about 3 others would look at my numbers in a few seconds and just say, well lets get you on Statins. Finally found a doctor who said I can do it via eating well and told me to read Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. Here I am years later, cholesterol numbers are literally perfect, and feel great.

I guess you need to be lucky with your physicians.

[terra_t]

Let's put it this way.

If people wanted something naturally, the government and industry wouldn't have to run ads incessantly promoting it.

Personally, I've made the discovery that breakfast is the only meal of the day I can skip. By the morning, my body is adapted to running off my stored energy reserves and it's not screaming at me that I need to eat.

The fact that so many authorities are constantly screaming "eat breakfast", "eat breakfast" suggests to me that there's a hidden agenda to push breakfast foods, just like the U.S.D.A tries to push cheese on people.

[anon-e-moose]

I must not consume enough advertising, as I haven't noticed this campaign =P

I personally tend to have trail mix and a low calorie sports drink for breakfast, but I'm weird like that.

[beagle3]

> makes me despair for the state of nutrition and health education.

You should despair for it. It's mostly a religion somehow connected to pseudoscience, and definitely a far cry from science.

The two basic axiom that almost everything is founded on (weight diff = calories in - calories out; and prot=4Kc/g, carb=4Kc/g, fat=9Kc/g, alc=7Kc/g) are disproved every other day, in the sense that even though they do apply in many cases, there is at least one robust study in which they do not apply to every 4 in which they do apply.

Something fundamental is being totally ignored.

It's like saying "it is scientific that people go to work and school every day", and ignoring the existence of weekends.

[Qz]

To be fair, the article starts off with:

I have many crackpot theories. Today is no exception. Let's test today's theory, unscientifically.

[fharper1961]

Adams' theory on this may be completely wrong. But I completely agree with his observations. On a an empty stomach I'll be alert and loaded with energy. After a carb laden lunch it'll be nap time.

[anon-e-moose]

You make a good case for trying a lunch that isn't (simple) carb laden then. =)

[napierzaza]

I'll probably be voted down for this, but Scott Adams is constantly making unfounded and usually wrong statements on his blog. He tries to push out big ideas on his blog and usually overreaches. But he has a big following.

[mrtron]

I found the blog post unique and an interesting perspective from someone sharing their honest thoughts.

There is no hidden motive here, he is just sharing an observation he has. Everyone has crazy ideas that are often unfounded and incorrect - I find it interesting to see them shared.

What point are you trying to make with your comment? Yes, he is making an unfounded and probably wrong statement. He readily admits this in the post. What is the problem?

[smithbits]

Has anyone got a convenient phrase for this style of blogging? I love having these kinds of BS sessions with my friends, propounding crack-pot theories and generally playing fast and loose with the facts, but it often bugs me when I see it in a blog post. There's absolutely no reason it should bug me, blogging is whatever the blogger wants it to be, but I think if I had a name for it I could quickly go "Oh, this is just a [blank] post" and not feel the need to take it seriously. Sort of like the way Godwin's law helps you filter the worst comment threads into /dev/null. I bet it would be all kinds of fun to have dinner with Scott Adams, I just don't want to mentally peer review his after-dinner conversation.

[dgallagher]

I'll throw this one out there: "Barstool Blogging"

It's like conversations you have with some random person in the barstool section of a bar. Subject matter varies, but generally it ends with you both talking like "experts" about some random subject neither of you really knows much about, besides maybe a few "factoids" here and there.

[VladRussian]

Adams is a great observer and he has great talent of bringing things to attention of the rest of the world. His analysis may be lacking. Well, that part is cheap, you may do it yourself.

Edit: i didn't mean that he is unable to analyze. I meant that analysis, whatever he presents, if any, isn't the primary thing in his blogs, and isn't really there for the analysis purposes per.se. It is more of unspecified association lines thrown in to hyperbolise the possibility of real and interesting connections between the things and to trigger you to look for them yourself.

[vidar]

I am pretty sure he is aware of this.

[Browserguy2000]

Why do you assume that he's the one who is wrong? Is that the conclusion you arrived at with your vast and infallible brain?

By the way, Adams would have said, "continuously making" and not "constantly making." Your grammar error doesn't prove that you're the one who is "usually wrong," but it's the only data point I have. Just sayin'.

[amitvjtimub]

"I'll probably be voted down for this but .."

Best way to polarize people. When you say that "I might get down-voted", people agreeing with you are forced to up-vote.

Edit : Wording