[elmalto]

We use Azure DevOps extensively at my work and, after having used GitHub, Gitlab, self hosted solutions, Jenkins, TeamCity... DevOps ranks dead last.

It's the entire experience. The UI is terribly clunky everywhere. The worst for me are pull requests. Incredibly tough to work with people on a pull request. I can't even point you to "a" particular problem - for us it's broken everywhere. From the weird file comparison with overlays to the missing support for (us) important file formats like ipython notebooks. The way notifications bubble up in a facebook like format on a pull request. The emails that have 20000 lines and never the exact information I need. The amount of clicks to go from comparing two files to open the current version. Other people mentioned the lacking caching support for builds, so I am not going to go into more detail here. Another missing piece for me: Where are my statistics. I'd love to see commit, PR, response, comment etc statistics per team member / teams / groups.

Using Azure DevOps board is a nightmare of its own...

btw: most of these issues are part of the whole "azure" experience. The Azure portal suffers from the exact same interface issues of horizontally stacking fields. One wrong click and your last edits have disappeared into the ether

[sandGorgon]

Same here. Azure has a killer feature in India that neither AWS or Google have - multiple data centres. Because of Indian data residency guidelines, that becomes critical for business continuity planning.

But the Azure UI is so bad that people are willing to forego stuff like that just to avoid being on Azure.

The Azure product teams have asked for feedback from startup multiple times with consistent answers on UI - I'm no longer willing to believe that this isn't the consequence of some global UI mandate to make things look "windows-y"

[giaour]

AWS has a full region based in Mumbai (ap-south-1) with multiple availability zones, each of which consists of multiple data centers.

[sandGorgon]

umm.. yes we are all aware of this.

Its a single geographic region. Its not allowed according to financial or healthcare data regulations in India.

P.S. i personally am working with the "Big 4" consulting guys to get a white paper to work with this. But big missed opportunity for Azure. All because of bad UI.

[jm2]

This. Please please let there be a thorough accessibility makeover, and soon.

I have managed to forget the search terms I entered, but the first thing I have stumbled on, is this :

https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/SL15.html

Keyboard shortcuts across Silverlight applications.

I have no idea what became of Silverlight. But I liked it very much more when I understood Silverlight was the future.

(how anyone understood the tech road maps at the time Silverlight was introduced, I can't imagine)

I personally see the problem is that search engines are disinterested in the furtherance of any kind of consistency capable of reducing the utility of a layer of discovery that they can provide. If you explained to your senator, that whoever dominates the browser market, effectively controls how all the information contained in the www is displayed and arranged by publishers, and the standards bodies intent to introduce semantic markup and accessibility across the www potentially can eliminate the need for search engines for a variety of constituencies and professional workers, no less cutting spam most certainly in the process, maybe they'd see the inherent conflict to be as undesirable as I see it to be.

I keep thinking I need to at least spend a while considering how possibly a browser might technically introduce undo / redo for arbitrary websites. This is what I would be trying to accomplish, if I held the necessary influence with the Edge team. Even the ability to be informed whatever it is that I just did to the page, would be enormously valuable to me and everyone I know. I'm going to risk thinking that since Microsoft are contributing to the chrome codebase, and the default supposition is surely that Microsoft wouldn't want any advancement of any features that have desktop equivalence, maybe a diplomatic possibility exists for introducing the semantics and accessibility consistency we desperately need, by a little sacrifice. I would love to be able to hit a key combination inside a Azure page, that thanks to the aforementioned accessibility standards, had a (possibly expanded) command line consistent equivalent and, permitting a little browser specific markup, could, with a single further stroke, break the interaction out of the browser and into powershell. It seems to be the aim for Microsoft to be the universal developer interface for all. This is entirely consistent with the same idea. The number of developers is only likely to be increasingly close to the whole user base of PCs, as voice and other interfaces develop. Get VSC for VB6 on Android and the job's done, in one short generation ...

[Bombthecat]

I just manage cdn and domains with this interface, it is super annoying, slow and complicated, already. I don't want to know how it is with more complex stuff...

The API is probably your only chance..

[tracker1]

One additional point... it would be GREAT if I could have a chat channel in MS Teams with just notifications of @user/group where I am a part of that user/group in VSTS. I get so many emails, I really can't/don't keep up with it. Generally, email for this type of thing sucks, and the email doesn't show the meat of what you need to see.

A dashboard interface for messages/notifications in VSTS would be helpful.

Aside, switching to a GraphQL type interface with something that updates your UI consistently would be nice. Some screens update fine, others just get lost/disconnected and you don't even know where you are at.

Overall, I haven't experienced the agent issues in TFA, but I've had plenty of other issues and continue to use the beast that I know. I do think the issue tracking is decent and the integration is as nice as other products I've tried imho. Sometimes simpler is easier though.