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by rbanffy 5703 days ago
That makes me believe there is no protection against contributor patents in the Apache 2.0 license...

At least they won't sue you if you use it under Windows.

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Thanks. I stand corrected. It's good to know Apache is patent-safe.

Sorry for those offended by my doubts.

You post uninformed crap like this, then complain about being downvoted for anything "negative against Microsoft": http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1800507
I complain when I am not wrong. This time I was very wrong.

And now I know Apache has an explicit patent grant, something I didn't just 7 hours ago.

BTW, I upvoted equark's comment. And thanks for pointing me to my previous comment: I forgot to add the "but, karma, burn" part...

rbanffy is anti-Microsoft, and doesn't waste a second in making it known. It's no use trying to reason or discuss with him about this - others have tried.
I am not "anti-Microsoft". I am just old enough. I also worry, considering recent moves (and that's not only from Microsoft), that some companies (Microsoft among them) may be taking strategic positions to disrupt the free and open-source software ecosystems that threaten their dominance of their niches.

Yesterday, for instance, Oracle made a huge PR splash in the MySQL space. One can't ignore it.

     some companies (Microsoft among them) may be taking strategic positions 
     to disrupt the free and open-source software ecosystems
Nice to join the party, some "Free Software proponents" have been doing that for years, doing nothing but going around and pissing on other people's efforts.
Care to give an example?
I am not "anti-Microsoft". I am just old enough.

I say it here, it comes out there. :-)

I'm also consistent. ;-)

I've been able to observe Microsoft for about 30 years and one thing you learn is that they play hard. They too are very consistent.

I'm glad that there are at least some people on HN who still understand the type of company Microsoft really is.