[sid0]

You post uninformed crap like this, then complain about being downvoted for anything "negative against Microsoft": http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1800507

[rbanffy]

I complain when I am not wrong. This time I was very wrong.

And now I know Apache has an explicit patent grant, something I didn't just 7 hours ago.

BTW, I upvoted equark's comment. And thanks for pointing me to my previous comment: I forgot to add the "but, karma, burn" part...

[bad_user]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apache+license+patents+grant

[mfukar]

rbanffy is anti-Microsoft, and doesn't waste a second in making it known. It's no use trying to reason or discuss with him about this - others have tried.

[rbanffy]

I am not "anti-Microsoft". I am just old enough. I also worry, considering recent moves (and that's not only from Microsoft), that some companies (Microsoft among them) may be taking strategic positions to disrupt the free and open-source software ecosystems that threaten their dominance of their niches.

Yesterday, for instance, Oracle made a huge PR splash in the MySQL space. One can't ignore it.

[bad_user]

     some companies (Microsoft among them) may be taking strategic positions 
     to disrupt the free and open-source software ecosystems

Nice to join the party, some "Free Software proponents" have been doing that for years, doing nothing but going around and pissing on other people's efforts.

[rbanffy]

Care to give an example?

[mfukar]

I am not "anti-Microsoft". I am just old enough.

I say it here, it comes out there. :-)

[rbanffy]

I'm also consistent. ;-)

I've been able to observe Microsoft for about 30 years and one thing you learn is that they play hard. They too are very consistent.

[face]

I'm glad that there are at least some people on HN who still understand the type of company Microsoft really is.