[puranjay]

Same here. The prices in my local market are absurdly high. They're literally more expensive than a 2017 Macbook Pro, and more expensive than every Macbook Air on the market.

My OnePlus 5T was less than 1/4th the price.

The latest iterations turned me off the brand. Apple is still my go to for laptops, but the phone prices are a ripoff

[askaboutit]

It was kind of inspiring to see Steve talk about the power PC CPU’s in a technical way. He would say “these things scream” and would compare constantly. He would talk about students and creatives. Professionals and home users in detail. Watching him bring down the prices was cool to see. The event in NY was a slap in the face. The new air might be great. But they increased the price by $100 without making it anything innovative.

[saagarjha]

What do you define to be "innovative"? They added a new screen, Touch ID, new trackpad, faster processor…for a $100 more. Compared to the computer it was replacing, this is a steal.

[n1231231231234]

the new macbook air starts at €1349 (ca $1500) in Belgium and you really want the one for €1599 (ca $1800).

for the same money, you get other laptops that are really nice with a cost/return ratio that is a lot better.

sure, apple products are good products. but the premium is getting absurdly high

[puranjay]

> you get other laptops that are really nice with a cost/return ratio that is a lot better.

The problem is that they'll all use Windows 10.

I switched to Apple because my Windows 10 experience was absolutely horrendous (literally 7m long start time).

(I can't use Linux because a core use is creating music and my software isn't available for it)

If Microsoft can improve Windows 10, which I don't see much chance of given how they keep screwing up their updates, there might be alternatives to Apple. But for now, OS X is the only competent software solution on the market

[saagarjha]

> I switched to Apple because my Windows 10 experience was absolutely horrendous (literally 7m long start time).

Windows may be bad, but it's not that bad. There's probably something else wrong with your computer.

[puranjay]

I mean I got the best specs I could get - i7, 16GB RAM, a decent graphics card. The only thing I don't have is a SSD. But that alone couldn't contribute so much to my speed woes

[arbol]

Which DAW?

[puranjay]

Primarily Ableton Live 10. Also use Pro Tools but mostly for vocals (need AutoTune)

[arbol]

Yeah that's a real shame. I keep a completely separate pc HDD running Windows for Ableton. Maybe I'll switch to bitwig one day cause I'd like to be able to produce whilst on the move

[puranjay]

I've tried Bitwig on Linux - it's nice and works well enough. But a few of my VSTs break on it (couldn't get Serum to work for some reason and I absolutely need it)