[puranjay]

> you get other laptops that are really nice with a cost/return ratio that is a lot better.

The problem is that they'll all use Windows 10.

I switched to Apple because my Windows 10 experience was absolutely horrendous (literally 7m long start time).

(I can't use Linux because a core use is creating music and my software isn't available for it)

If Microsoft can improve Windows 10, which I don't see much chance of given how they keep screwing up their updates, there might be alternatives to Apple. But for now, OS X is the only competent software solution on the market

[saagarjha]

> I switched to Apple because my Windows 10 experience was absolutely horrendous (literally 7m long start time).

Windows may be bad, but it's not that bad. There's probably something else wrong with your computer.

[puranjay]

I mean I got the best specs I could get - i7, 16GB RAM, a decent graphics card. The only thing I don't have is a SSD. But that alone couldn't contribute so much to my speed woes

[arbol]

Which DAW?

[puranjay]

Primarily Ableton Live 10. Also use Pro Tools but mostly for vocals (need AutoTune)

[arbol]

Yeah that's a real shame. I keep a completely separate pc HDD running Windows for Ableton. Maybe I'll switch to bitwig one day cause I'd like to be able to produce whilst on the move

[puranjay]

I've tried Bitwig on Linux - it's nice and works well enough. But a few of my VSTs break on it (couldn't get Serum to work for some reason and I absolutely need it)