[smhost]

you're complaining about how i'm not understanding your beliefs in exactly the way that you want to be interpreted, so the only recourse you have is to turn away and act as if my interpretations ultimately don't matter, which is exactly in line with your stated belief that meaning is internal. i won't see you the way you see yourself, so now i'm wasting your time and making extreme statements, and there's nothing you can do about it except close yourself off.

[delian66]

Well, I agree with PavlovsCat and disagree with you. So in our little mini society of at least 3 people in this thread, a society which is not fiction (as you said), there is nothing you can do about it, except to take the feedback we give you, I guess.

[smhost]

that's not true. since i believe that meaning is external, the correct thing for me to do is either continue to try to convince you, or kill you both if you don't compromise a meaningful way forward.