[delian66]

Well, I agree with PavlovsCat and disagree with you. So in our little mini society of at least 3 people in this thread, a society which is not fiction (as you said), there is nothing you can do about it, except to take the feedback we give you, I guess.

[smhost]

that's not true. since i believe that meaning is external, the correct thing for me to do is either continue to try to convince you, or kill you both if you don't compromise a meaningful way forward.