[Erwin]

The Huawei P20 shipped out in April with this feature -- I look forward to dxomark's analysis of the Pixel 3 phone compared to the P20, which currently remains on top: https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/

Upgrading from a 3-year old Samsung S6, where I could almost see the battery percentages drop off percent by percent, the P20 Pro's 4000 mAh battery has been great (too bad the wireless charging didn't appear until the new Mate P20 Pro).

[shaklee3]

The Huawei does not have this feature. Look at the review in your own link and you will see that the images for low light are comparable to the pixel or iPhone. If you compare night sight to those, it's completely different.

[endorphone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw

Except the Huawei does and in actual same-setting situations the results are better than the Pixel.

[shaklee3]

You're confusing sensor size for the algorithm again. The Huawei sensor is twice as large as the pixel 2, which is why both cameras without night mode on has a vast improvement in the p20. It's also why the improvement by turning night mode on in the p20 is not as great of a leap as on the pixel.

[endorphone]

Incredible.

Did you actually watch the video?

The P20 Pro does exactly what this new night mode does, albeit did it months ago. It does image stacking (which is not a new approach). In direct comparison testing -- in that video -- it yields better results.

This whole discussion has just been an bizarre.

[shaklee3]

There's really no point in continuing this since I don't think you understand what the size of the camera sensor does in low light. I was simply pointing out, over and over, that it is not the same feature Huawei had. Just like you can't take a $50 point and shoot with extremely complex software that took the same image quality as a $5000 Nikon, and say that "this technology exists". Huawei has better camera hardware in almost every dimension you can imagine, and more than half the pictures in the video you sent are worse on the Huawei, despite those advantages. I did not say that Huawei can't take any pictures that are better than the Pixel. I said it's not the same technology, and dismissing this as "it's already been done" is ludicrous. If the Pixel 2 had the same hardware as the P20 the results would be even more impressive.

[endorphone]

Dear god. Incredible.

You are completely and utterly wrong. Yet you continue. Amazing.

And you're not the first to distract with claims that it is someone else's ignorance.

The P20 Pro does image stacking. Period. That is exactly what this new Pixel mode does. In actual results the P20 Pro is better.

[gwicks56]

I'm hesitant to bring this up, for lots of different reasons, but people I know and mostly trust, who work in places where they should be in a position to know, all tell me the same thing: "Never buy Huawei anything, for any reason". Anybody have any real knowledge about this? @danielmicay is doing some interesting stuff in relation to being able to verify different Android build, but I have not tested yet to see.

[krackers]

I'd assume it'd be in relation to some sort of China-related backdoor or datamining. About half a year ago intelligence agencies also publicly recommended against buying Huwawei/ZTE phones, for presumably whatever reasons the people you mentioned may be privy to.

[TheForumTroll]

The secret: They are not made by a US company. It is called "Propaganda" outside the US.

[0x54D5]

Unfortunately the P20 does not currently have a warranty in the United States.