[sololipsist]

Rubin deserves to be punished for sexual harassment....

IF, in fact, he sexually harassed, right?

A) What in the hell was his partner doing reporting to his place of business that she felt like he had compelled her to have sex with him in a hotel room? What does that have to do with work? That smells like using an accusation as a weapon to me.

B) What does "compelled" mean? I had a girlfriend once who was into kink and I wasn't. We did kink all the time and it wasn't fulfilling to me, and once time in particular I was trying very hard to just get her to have sex with me (which I thought was going to be part of the relationship and was just beginning to realize it was not). I kept asking, she kept saying no. Eventually she gave in. After our break-up she cited this as a rape to a friend. Is this rape? Is it even sexual harassment?

There are so few details here it's shameful it's even being reported on.

So what if Google gave a severance to someone who was accused of harassment? It's not even clear, from the details, that he did. Shit, what if they did an internal investigation and determined that he didn't?

What's wrong with people here, acting like this is something we know he did?

[danso]

A) The article states that the two were in a relationship. Meeting someone at their hotel room doesn't automatically mean a consent to sex.

B) I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for your particular experience. But keep in mind that many sexual misconduct accusations involve the victim refusing but eventually "giving in". Harvey Weinstein, for example:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-ove...

> Shit, what if they did an internal investigation and determined that he didn't?

I hate to say "did you read the article?", but your question suggests that you may have skimmed the details. The article specifically states that Google investigated Rubin, and decided to terminate him as a result of the investigation. The investigation did not "prove" the accusation, but apparently the accusation was credible enough for Google to decide it was better to part ways with one of its most important executives.

> Google’s inquiry ultimately found the complaint against Mr. Rubin credible, said the two company executives familiar with the incident. While Mr. Rubin denied the accusation, it became clear that — at the very least — the relationship was inappropriate, they said. Mr. Page decided Mr. Rubin should leave, they said.

[bronson]

> What does that have to do with work?

She worked for him. Not sure if it's intentional but your reply seems full of willful ignorance.

[sololipsist]

So what? People who work together have sexual relationships, and people who have relationships will have conflict.

"People who disagree with me are ignorant." Come on, man. Seriously? You sounds like a college kid on facebook.

If a company is not going to prohibit employees from having sexual relationships with each other, horizontally or vertically, that company also need to expect those employees to work their conflict out outside of work. If google does want to prohibit this, they should have disciplined both of them the moment they heard about it and fired them if it continued.

What's with people expecting companies to be mommy and daddy when we have conflicts in our relationships? That's crazy.

[JoeAltmaier]

Ignoring the 'she worked for him' part, where her pay and career were subject to his whim? That's the issue. Its classic blackmail. Google doesn't have to be 'mommy' to oppose blackmail when it finds it occurring within their walls.

[sololipsist]

And what if she's using the relationship to get ahead? What, are we going to pretend that women are powerless, agentless puppets that smart, capable men can use?

If the company you're in doesn't prohibit relationships, if you get into one you need to resolve conflict in those relationships outside of work.

[JoeAltmaier]

Again, ignoring the likelihood she had no choice, or perceived it as the only way to go forward.

[danso]

> People who work together have sexual relationships

The parent commenter said:

> She worked for him

[sololipsist]

I said:

> horizontal or vertical

[dang]

You're basically trolling now. Please stop.