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by nerdponx 2845 days ago
Prudishness, imported from America. Here, nudity == sexuality.
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Amen. In the days the catholic church ruled hard, yes, but since the 60s or so, we didn't have a problem with sexuality in western Europe.

Men with speedos or women with breasts out on the beach? Nobody cares, and not because we thought this is just some "connecting with nature" that has nothing to do with sexuality, but because we didn't have a problem with sexuality.

Or, e.g. some politician having an extra marital affair? Who cares. Mitterand had an illegitimate child and nobody batted an eye.

Sure, there are some prudish nuts calling for moral outrage (usually on the right or related to the church), but they held no big power in these here parts.

"Western Europe" is a rather large place and this doesn't apply universally.
Nothing applies universally except the laws of physics and tautologies.

But some things apply more than others in aggregate (statistically).

So, well, exclude Ireland and the UK for one.

But you can keep nordic countries, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Netherlands, and others...

+1 to this, but I'd also add Facebook/Instagram/etc... banning you if you show a nipple.

Go to the beach, and want to post about it, better put a top on, or get banned (if you're female)

I’d go with the importation of Islamic values. American media isn’t that prude, and not much else cultural is imported from the US.
Religious flamewar isn't welcome here. If you keep posting like this we're going to end up banning you—having already warned you more than once.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

They appeal to sexuality specifically because it is edgy and shocking to a large percentage of the population. American media is quite prude on the whole.

Don't forget that many of the early settlerd in the USA were literally Puritans. Hard-right moralizing Christianity has always felt at home here.

Also, as stated in many other places in this thread, it's ridiculous to ascribe to change to Islam.

Do you think islamic values are more or less prude than American values?
That's a non-sequitur. You're comparing a religion with a continent or a nation-state, depending on what you mean by American. If you mean Christian values, then no, they seem about the same. But I'm not a theologian and my opinion is uninformed and irrelevant.

Either way, it's clearly not because of Islamic values.