[coldtea]

Amen. In the days the catholic church ruled hard, yes, but since the 60s or so, we didn't have a problem with sexuality in western Europe.

Men with speedos or women with breasts out on the beach? Nobody cares, and not because we thought this is just some "connecting with nature" that has nothing to do with sexuality, but because we didn't have a problem with sexuality.

Or, e.g. some politician having an extra marital affair? Who cares. Mitterand had an illegitimate child and nobody batted an eye.

Sure, there are some prudish nuts calling for moral outrage (usually on the right or related to the church), but they held no big power in these here parts.

[pjc50]

"Western Europe" is a rather large place and this doesn't apply universally.

[coldtea]

Nothing applies universally except the laws of physics and tautologies.

But some things apply more than others in aggregate (statistically).

So, well, exclude Ireland and the UK for one.

But you can keep nordic countries, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Netherlands, and others...