[Kyrztyn]

Awesome.

Question:

Why are you wasting your time?

Do you wish to apply a blanket cure for the unknown multitude causes of mental health issues?

Why do you think reductions in the self reported “mental health” of the general population is useful for people who have been hospitalized with mood disorders?

Don’t you think that people who lie about how much exercise they do also might be lieing to themselves about their mental health?

[dang]

We've banned this account for being uncivil and otherwise violating the site guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[itschekkers]

1- surely we're allowed to waste our own time if we like!

2- nope, and actually my entire research agenda has been around helping people find a treatment that is most likely to work for them specifically! (we also founded a company to bring the research to market- springhealth.com)

3- that is beyond the scope of the paper, and we didnt use the word hospitalized once

4- yep, and thats a good example of one of the pitfalls of self-reported surveys. in general, i am a bit less cynical and in our experience, most people aren't filling out surveys to intentionally lie or sabotage.

hope this helps!

[rrggrr]

You didn't deserve that response. Good job on the paper and keep up the good work. Your findings are supported by other research as you already know.

[itschekkers]

thanks! <3

we've had a wonderful positive response to this article, and people are overwhelmingly excited and motivated to try and exercise more because of it (even at relatively lower intensities or volumes -- every little helps). even if we are extremely cynical and say theres zero benefit of exercise for mental health, then people will still be getting known improvements regarding diabetes, stroke, cardiovascular disease. Nobody is advocating for exercise at the expense of alternative treatments like meds or therapy, this really is just a (potentially large) extra benefit.

[Kyrztyn]

Aw, hearts!

:/

You established ZERO causality in your study! How can you even say you are a scientist and say this has a (potentially) large benefit?!

And you did not even distinguish between mental health and mental illness.

The fact that you are excited that you got a “positive response” from this article just tells me you are a neoliberal shill.

[Kyrztyn]

#2, of course. Capitalism.

You want to bring the research to market, not help the mentally ill. You goal is profit.

For the 20 I have been “cared for” by people like you it took my own ingenuity and relentless pressure on a psychiatric system that thinks there is never a nutritional cause to mood disorders to have them test me for a biotinidase deficiency which turned up positive. My mood issues were cured by 15 grams of biotin a day.

Researched and doctors like you were so certain what caused my depression and anxiety you filled me with pills that rarely worked and diabled me with side effects. It took 15 years to even test me for a B12 or iron deficiency.

So sorry, but your study does not help the mentally ill. Maybe it helps people who are stressed from the everclenching fist of capitalism, but that’s about it.

[markroseman]

You got shitty psychiatric care. The real tragedy is that is so common.