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by jewelthief91 2877 days ago
How is Germany more free and Democratic? Aren't they purposefully less free because of anti-Nazi laws?
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Germany consistently places higher than the USA on international press freedom indices. The press, in general, is a protected institution there, whereas here, blowhards like Trump do their damnedest to intimidate journalists out of doing their job, which is to expose the dealings of government to the public.

And you don't have to read Hackernews for long to see how terminally fucked and anti-freedom the U.S. justice system is. Things like plea bargaining, money bail, and systemic racism in law enforcement and criminal proceedings make U.S. "freedom" illusory unless you're white and wealthy.

As for democracy, it's well known that votes in Congress can be easily bought in the US, far more easily than in Germany's parliament.

How is this freedom attributable in any direct way to restrictions on "hate speech"?
Well, you could argue that Germany successfully avoided renazifying in part because of its anti-hate-speech laws.

Even absent this, the point is that Germany is, in practice, freer than the USA despite having a less absolute stance on free speech.

But because of those, other groups whom the Nazis and other alt-right groups would have targeted are more free to participate in the conversation.