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by psychedictic 2889 days ago
Someone does not need to have a "family history of mental disorders" to become an acid casualty. Some people simply have a bad reaction to the chemical and there isn't a reliable way of knowing in advance how a person might react to it.
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How do they know if what they’ve taken is actually LSD-25, and not some research chemical?

Research chemicals pawned off as LSD is more common than ever. They are dangerous psychotic inducing deugs.

How do they know if what they’ve taken is actually LSD-25, and not some research chemical?

Anyone who has become an ‘acid casualty’ was dosed with these dangerous research chemicals, and everyone who was just fine had legitimate LSD?

Are you suggesting that’s impossible or improbable given the prevalence of fake LSD as well as research chemicals being sold as LSD-25?
My implicit suggestion was that the viewpoint expressed in my comment (as a question) is a ridiculous logical fallacy.

Reading the other comments I see that others have expressed the same thought.

It’s a hypothesis.
Test kits, test kits, test kits, TEST KITS. This whole thread needs test kits.
I heard LSD is rarely synthesized now and instead people end up with research chemicals (now scheduled) like 2C-B instead. Do you know if this is true?
True. In fact chances you're buying LSD nowadays is almost zero. And I suspect this is the reason of many bad experiences described in this topic
Where do you get that information from? What are people taking when we see articles on HN talk about the benefits of micro dosing?
It's not. There are reliable LSD vendors on the dark markets.
Do you have any research to suggest people can become an “acid casualty”?

This seems to be more lore than fact.

And recent meta analysis shows that psychedelic use has no negative impacts on mental health (and in many cases, is beneficial).

Can you cite research that backs that up? I have a friend who it brought out/caused his schizophrenia. I understand it may have occurred naturally eventually because he has a family history but having it occur when he was 20 is much worse than later in life.

It’s incredibly irresponsible to say it has no negative impacts without more research being done in the area.

This study seems to suggest classical psychedelics do not cause mental illness which I will not argue against. However, as someone diagnosed as schizophrenic in 2012 and now considered bipolar with pyschotic features my last use of LSD caused a pyschotic break. I had a great trip, but I took the drug at 9pm before a festival and by the time I made it to 6am I could not slow down the frentic pace of thoughts in my brain and calm down enough to sleep and my pyschosis manifested itself despite my experience with hallucinogens and previous pyschotic episodes. I was in a stable state and it was the night of lsd that destabilized me. I haven't experimented with psychedelics since even though I have had some of the most powerful and positive experiences on lsd and mushrooms. It is not worth the risk of ending up in handcuffs again. I do not wish the mental ward on anyone. So my advice is respect these substances and your body because altering your mind opens you to possibilities beyond considerations of sober thought. People like me should not use these substances, and you may not realise you are like me until you do. I knew I probably shouldn't but my experience led me to believe I could handle any trip, that an lsd trip is a drop in a bucket compared my psychosis, but I learned that drop was all my body needed to propel me into another episode.
I’m sorry you had such an intense experience!

I was diagnosed with schizophrneia and Biploar. I found that mdma in a theraputic setting helped me heal the underlying condition and resulted in an elimination of symptoms.

I’ve also had psychosis induced by psychedelics, however I also saw how the psychosis was a result of deeper held beliefs that weren’t serving. The psychosis ended up resolving with a much deeper sense of self and compassion.

That said, with a clear understanding of psychosis, how to work with and integrate it, and a theraputic setting for psychedelic use, folks might want to avoid it.

Psychedelics helped me heal without medication.

You could say the same thing about anything that anyone has ever had an allergic reaction to.