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by 13years 2903 days ago
> a ban is a very minor inconvenience

At least for fortnite. They do HW ID bans. So it is a substantial inconvenience.

However, I wonder what are the limitations to architecting a game like World Of Tanks. One of the reasons I have really enjoyed that game is the inherit limitations on cheating due to the fact most of the games runs server side. The client can't do magic cheats like in games like Fortnite.

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I am willing to bet World of Tanks has aim-bots and wall-hacks, though cheats like god-mode and speed hacks are almost unheard-of at this point.

For a twitchy game to have decent performance, the client-side needs to have enough information to render the scene in front of you. This information is leveraged by hackers to write the cheats.

Knowing what a person is "allowed" to see server-side is extremely difficult, and would cause horrible latency issues[0]. Additionally it would completely ruin the ability to to predictive rendering on the front-end further causing latency.

[0] You would have to know which direction the user is facing, where their opponents are standing and what direction they are facing, and calculate the user's view based on all of this information. This is what is usually done on the client-side.

There are cheats, but they just don't have a substantial benefit. There are no wall-hacks. Aimbots exist, but aren't that useful. The game already has autoaim builtin, but is rarely used.

The client has fairly limited information. A tank you can't see isn't known to the client. The server only accepts intentions from the client. Such as I want to move forward, I am shooting etc. Everything else is calculated on the server. The server determines if a shot hits, not the client.

Apparently god like mode cheats are available in games like Fortnite however.

In this example, it appears the client can pretty much do anything. Apparently it can kill players anywhere on the map, have unlimited resources etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0_X1MBaM1s

Used to play and love WoT, untill I started suspecting particular teammates to cheat. I then started looking for cheats, found a Russian who rents out "tools" that work and give you the exact advantage over normal players I was expecting my teammates to have (aimbots, laserlines, wallhacks, enemy reload info, etc).

Deleted the game a week later.

This is just an example of one game that I had to let go of, there are dozens who I abandoned in my 20 years of online computer gaming.

Currently I play WoW :( Super boring, super slow, super not sensitive to hacks that effect me.