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by valeriob 2923 days ago
That's unfortunate, since ms opensource journey started 10 years ago :D Java as a language stagnated 10 years compared to anything (example lambda). .net has been the source of many technologies, CQRS/ES, Async/Await, Reactive Programming, etc.
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guitarbill 2923 days ago
Woah there. I think a lot of these need citations. While it's true that .NET had async/await in 2007 (F#, AFAIK), Microsoft open-sourcing things isn't that old. From what I can see, their most popular open-source projects are TypeScript (Oct 2012, so 5 years ago), and VSCode (Apr 2015, so 3 years ago). .NET Core was Nov 2014, also 3 years ago. Cynically, you might say they released VSCode and .NET Core because VS and .NET were dying slow deaths, maybe the same can be said for TypeScript, because JavaScript/web dev cannibalized Microsoft's markets.

Meanwhile, the interesting technologies, especially relating to web development, ops/deployment, or data storage and processing are first-class citizens in Linux (and macOS gets a free ride, because POSIX and desktop). Most of them don't use Java , but enough do: Lucene/ElasticSearch, Cassandra (and probably DynamoDB, even if it isn't OSS), Hadoop, Neo4j, Kafka, and more.

It's not even close. Please understand I'm not hating on C#, or saying Java was why these things are successful (definitely not), but I think it helps to understand the eco-systems surrounding both C# and Java. C# may be a nice language, and may be able to run on Linux. In 2005 (C# 2.0) it was almost revolutionary, but now it's just another language. Meanwhile everybody else has been learning and using the other languages to build great things - distinctly without Microsoft.

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valeriob 2921 days ago
Yep you are right, i rounded too much, mvc is from 2009 : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/734892/asp-net-mvc-is-no... But the bulk of it started a bit later with the whole .net ecosystem.

I agree with all you said, but i'm referring to the previous comment where ms has been all but asleep in the last 10 years :D Anyway talking about language and dev-environment are two completly different conversations, and i'm not wrong saying that Java as language stagnated far too long. I never said the .net eco system thrived meanwhile :D

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