[PrimHelios]

>No one actually expressed any defensible position, and they still haven’t

No, nobody has given you a position you agree with. You can't just say "EVERYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS INDEFENSIBLE HURR DURR", that's not how things work.

Whether or not you agree is irrelevant, but you clearly can't see that, so arguing with you is just a waste of time.

Grow up.

[downandout]

Nobody has given me anything to agree with or not. They just say that my position is wrong, and have no solutions.

[PrimHelios]

You have had 2, but I guess they don't count.

Watch this:

Our economy depends on """illegal""" immigrants in order to survive things like harvest season.

[downandout]

It doesn't count when people say we should just open up the borders to anyone that claims that their country is poor or that life in Mexico kind of sucks. I feel bad for them, but that doesn't mean we can take care of them over here. So the "let's let all of Mexico in and we can hold hands and sing kum ba yah" position is not defensible.

Also, why the quotes around "illegal"? When you enter a country illegally, you are an illegal immigrant. Has PC culture gotten so out of hand that simply using the proper legal terminology is now offensive?

[PrimHelios]

>It doesn't count when

So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time.

[dang]

You crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. Please don't, regardless of how wrong someone else is.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[PrimHelios]

Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other.

I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?

[downandout]

What exactly are you suggesting? That we simply open up the border?

[dang]

Please stop using HN for political flamewar.