[ineedtosleep]

Stars don't matter. If we want a measure that's actually meaningful to some developers, look at job postings.

Anecdotally from my on and off job searching, React leads here by orders of magnitude. And unfortunately for me, my Vue personal experiments/side projects have to be put in the sideline for a bit. Many people I've talked to want direct React experience and not just experience in reactive frontend stuff.

[optimiz3]

Meanwhile we're still using ASP.Net MVC w/ a vintage 2008 web design. Could care less about $latest_web_technology, because having a viable business is more important than what the site is coded in or how it looks.

[paulie_a]

While that is a valid point and a company should never leapfrog to the new hotness. Using outdated technology can have major pitfalls with technical debt. Also looks, ie ui/ux does matter greatly. A modern Android app wins vs something built for 4.0

[hueving]

UI look really only matters in competitive consumer markets.

In B2B spaces where there are limited competitors and vastly different levels of investment involved for the users, the UI largely becomes irrelevant as long as it works.

[paulie_a]

I have evaluated b2b on a regular basis, features matter, but UI absolutely matter to me when I make a recommendation. If it looks like shit from the 90s I won't even put it on the list. If it doesn't have a solid UI it's a nonstarter.

I've recommended other b2b services over Salesforce because they have such a shitty UI and it worked out nicely.

[megaman22]

There's a lot of other reasons to run the other direction from Salesforce. Ugh, their REST api...

[paulie_a]

While I hated their stupid custom software I think it worked over rest API. That was probably was a better feature they had, which isn't saying a lot.

[naasking]

> Meanwhile we're still using ASP.Net MVC w/ a vintage 2008 web design.

I'm still maintaining a web forms program first started in 2002. I dream of MVC.

[hashkb]

I use React every day and haven't starred it. I star random stuff I want to come back to later (like Vue).

[Reedx]

I use stars that way too - as a quick bookmark. Thinking about it now I don't actually star things that I'm using.

(have used both React and Vue a lot, haven't starred either one)

[max23_]

Same. Star is sort of like a bookmark for me to revisit them at a later time.

[xellisx]

99% the jobs for PHP "development" I've come across in the past couple months have been requiring lots Laravel experience. And quite a few of those have required a bachelors in computer science...

[JeanMarcS]

And Laravel is pro VueJS (or at least was last time I checked)

[xellisx]

I haven't seen VueJS specifically (yet) in my endeavor to learn everything about Laravel. Bootstrap is a common theme I'm seeing at the moment.

[Can_Not]

VueJS has been officially blessed by the creator of laravel and one of the top contributors Jeffery Way made a video tutorial series. I think the latest version of laravel mix has first class support for VueJS.

[mygo]

what’s funny is, if you go on youtube to learn VueJS, you’re going to get a bunch of Laravel videos teaching you to use VueJS with Laravel

[xellisx]

Well I'm going throug a 31 hour Udemy "course", after doing a couple of other tutorials (one having some SQL/ORM issues which I had to comment to point out the issues and fix). Also I find it still feel funny about learning something about things done in text through videos, so that's probably why I really haven't come across the usage of Vue.JS yet.

[Reedx]

Wow, it dominates that much? No Symfony?

[xellisx]

I think I saw maybe one that said something about Symfony. I've been doing the "I'll just learn it, even though the framework is built upon horrible practices that we've been screaming not to do for over 10 years now!"

[xellisx]

And I just came across one post for Laravel, that also says "Should also know about...." "- SOLID principles, application architecture" face palm

[exclusiv]

Yeah and the interesting thing is it uses a lot of Symfony components. The Symfony components are really high quality themselves but I strongly dislike the framework.

[Cofike]

Yeah it's tough. Do you go into a new technology and have issues finding jobs or do you use the tried and true, risk stagnating and costing yourself future jobs.

[malz]

I'm hiring specifically for Vue experience.