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by super_trooper 2940 days ago
So is GitLab the new GitHub for opensource?
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Anecdotally I've found Github much cleaner-looking, much faster and more usable than Gitlab. Github was never opensource, and I think people used it for all of the above. I'd be surprised if the recent acquisition changes that.
I feel like part of this minority. I find GitLab's UI less clean and more difficult to process, and miss the social interaction features like the feed.

I preferred GitHub's UI because it was cleaner and much faster to load.

I'm part of it too. Some years ago I was looking for an alternative to GitHub, with free private repositories for some personal projects I wanted to keep private. After a few weeks on GitLab I ended up moving to BitBucket because it was generally faster to use
While the feed is interesting, I've often found myself wishing for a quick way to get to a list of all of my repositories on GitHub.

GitLab's initial screen is that list.

I think most people will have a 'wait and see' attitude. Moving git repositories is easy and issues, etc. can be downloaded through the GitHub API.

It may well be that Microsoft doesn't radically alter the direction of GitHub and that will be acceptable to most people.

(I would prefer a fully FLOSS solution, but GitHub has huge benefits in terms of network effects.)

I think if Github does one or two huge updates that are really well received post-acquisition, preferably the kind of updates only possible with a tech giant behind you, they will secure their position for a long time. For most users Github still has the best product - how people are forgetting that is beyond me.
"preferably the kind of updates only possible with a tech giant behind you"

What kinds of these? Its never been the case that 25% more engineers means 25% more progress and github is a mature product made by a company that already employees a signifiant staff.

The logical thing would be not to piss off the existing users and use github to add value to existing Microsoft properties. So some new integration with Microsoft things?

Expanding the Github Education package, integrating Github offerings with the Spark program, applying Bing search expertise to Github code search, creating a more flexible pricing model for hobbyist users, expanding their free offering, creating better Desktop/mobile applications for Github services (better the the open source ones currently available at least).
Not sure how much more "tech giant behind you" github needed. They are already a pretty large company for what they do.
As anyone who has used both can tell you: no.
Until MS bought Github. Now for Gitlab this can as well become yes.
Why is BitBucket not being kept in consideration with this move?
Probably because Bitbucket is a terrible product. It has the worst interface of the group, and less-than-minimal support for pull requests (comments disappear when unrelated changes are made, aren’t easy to browse, aren’t related to a review; only options are approve and permanently close; code expansion doesn’t work past a certain point, and doesn’t work at all if the pull request comes from a repo you don’t have access to even though you could just merge the pull request and get it).

Also required users making private forks of paid-for organization private repos to pay again to give access to all team members at once last time I used it, but I guess that’s not relevant for open-source migration.

> only options are approve and permanently close

You can also mark it as «Need work».

Oh, nice. (This didn’t exist back when my team was on Bitbucket, sorry for the outdated info.)
Because it's a slow piece of shit with even slower support. And as others have said is really built to look good to managers.
I was wondering the same. I thought Atlassian had better rapport among devs than GitLab.
I would argue that Atlassian has better rapport with engineering manager types. Their products integrate and bundle quite nicely which is compelling for many organizations. As a dev, I'm not a fan of their UX but I've known quite a few PMs that are JIRA masters and love the fully integrated solutions Atlassian offers.
Does Atlassian have better rapport with the businessy set that often makes purchasing decisions? Yes.

Better rapport with developers? Probably not.

(and, FWIW, we use Bitbucket/Jira and honestly I'm fine with them - their updates just tend to be full of the annoying things a bad PHB would love and light on the things developers care about)

No sales people pushing the products makes it a little harder for it to be a push down from the businessy-set.
No. Because they make Jira
I laughed.
Doubt it, in the long run. I also question the move from one VC-backed company to another unless you're only using their self hosted options (though I guess being open source is better).