[cosmiccartel]

> It's not like these members of the inaccurately titled "Intellectual Dark Web" are actually interested in changing anyone's mind.

This is incredibly disingenous. That is exactly what they're trying to do, and quite successfully. Peterson's book sales are skyrocketing, and not among convinced rightists. Browse any conservative forum and you'll find that the vast majority of the new wave of conservatives are former liberals who were convinced by these people.

[wilsonnb]

I browse conservative forums regularly and the only former liberals I see are rather obviously so young that they only reason they were liberals before is because they hadn't given it much thought. The number of actual liberal to actual conservative conversions, and vice versa, is incredibly small.

In my opinion, the best way to describe what you call conversion of liberals is radicalization of the youth. This is happening both on the right and the left, to varyi g degrees, probably because the two sides are more divided at the moment than they have been in the past.

Anyways, Peterson's popular book doesn't really have anything to do with his political stances. It's a typical self help book.

[cosmiccartel]

To your first point, all I can say is that I doubt it. I see a lot of moderate liberals becoming more conservative. It's anecdotal, of course, but it's everywhere.

> the best way to describe what you call conversion of liberals is radicalization of the youth

That might be accurate if Shapiro or Peterson were radical conservatives. Both fall squarely into the "social liberal" category.

[wilsonnb]

You're right, radicalization isn't the right word.

Indoctrination is a better word choice for how I feel about it.

[ropeadopepope]

> Peterson's book sales are skyrocketing, and not among convinced rightists.

That's because Peterson is a leftist. He has contrarian viewpoints on exactly two topics: pronouns and communism. Other than that, he's as left wing as they come. He's a great example of how bad the political discourse has gotten. The left won't even allow dissenting opinions among their own people.