[m0ck]

As a relatively big person, doing heavy exercise several times a week, I simply cannot image how would I get all proteins I get from eating meat, eggs and dairy products (I can,but it involves eating huge amounts of expensive vegan food).

[ajaxaddicted]

As I mentioned - you also get all the toxic baggage from the animal products, which kind of negates the other side - you exercise because you want to stay healthy.

Also - you may have heard that excessive amounts of protein ages you faster - most protein heavy foods are also pro oxidants and oxidative stress ages your cells.

The expensive vegan foods - meat, eggs, dairy are processed plants. So what you are saying is - if you eat the plants directly, they will be more expensive compared to filtering them through an animal and then eating them. Does not make sense.

For the heavy exercise - they are now ultra marathon runners, power lifters, etc that are vegan. Where do they get their protein? https://www.ranker.com/list/athletes-who-are-vegan/people-in...

[StriverGuy]

Toxic baggage...I get the feeling you haven't spent much time reading into the actual science of omnivore diets.

[ajaxaddicted]

Maybe I have not. Can you get back to me with some information debunking the following claims: Meat - loaded with trans fat, cholesterol, antibiotics. Milk - full with estrogen(it is from a mammal after all), Casomorphin, which makes it addictive, antibiotics, cholesterol and trans fat, just like meat. Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US. Fish - full with heavy metals like Lead, Mercury, antibiotics.

[rocannon]

> Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US

This pdf from the USDA says "Eggs are among the most nutritious foods on earth and can be part of a healthy diet". True, the pdf then goes on in great detail about the potential health hazards: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/5235aa20-fee1-4e5b...

The American Egg Board pretty much states they are wonderful for your health: https://www.eggnutritioncenter.org/egg-nutrition-basics > Eggs fit into the healthy dietary patterns recommended by public health organizations. > The high-quality protein in an egg is essential for building and maintaining lean body mass

Essential, hm.

[vram22]

>Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US.

Is this really true?

[ajaxaddicted]

Yes, it is: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy...

[TheKIngofBelAir]

No it's not, Michael Greger is known Vegan/Plant based quack full of selection/confirmation bias thus totally biased and unreliable

[vram22]

Thanks, will look at that.

[PerfectElement]

This is called "the protein myth". I encourage you to do some research on it.