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by dgaaaaaaaaaa 2993 days ago
This was refuted in reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/8bx9m7/google_is_al...
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It's not refuted, it's just that the experiment has been contaminated and there might be multiple listening actors that are not Google: Windows' 10 Cortana, Alexa, Android/iOS phones nearby etc.

So it's either a weird coincidence or _someone_ is listening. How and who is still unclear, until the experiment is repeated in a more rigorous manner.

My hypothesis is Google running some text-to-speech from the stream, as any other form of local spying would be visible in network traces, whereas you're sending your stream to Google servers and what happens there is opaque.

Many people, me included, have seen ads after talking about a topic for the first time. My mates got Bitcoin ads just after I've spent most of an evening explaining what it was to them for the first time.

It might be the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon in play, or someone's actually listening. It's definitely something we need to explore.

EDIT: how has this dropped from the front page so quickly?

>My mates got Bitcoin ads just after I've spent most of an evening explaining what it was to them for the first time.

1. You most likely have had thousands of cases when you talked to people about something and they didn't get an ad for the topic afterwards. One care hardly proves anything.

2. In Bitcoin's case, it's even more likely that this would happen coincidentally, since it was a temporary fad that got popular over a short period of time, during which time you had an increased likelihood of explaining Bitcoin to your friends, and your friends had an increased likelihood of being served Bitcoin ads, even independent from each other.

Just a guess, but I've noticed that HN scrubs the front page of all kinds of stuff pretty quickly -- not just hot button issues (e.g. political stuff or the like).
That was my initial thought too, but it seems too coincidental that when he loaded up fark.com again (at the start of the experiment) there was an ad for pet insurance, or something canine related and then on the first page there was the link to dog toys

So 2 ads for dog things before he clicked on one, seems a pretty extraordinary coincidence

One thing that wasn't clear was he closed Chrome before he started discussing the dog toys, so how was google supposed to be listening? Unless it was via a different device e.g. an android phone

EDIT: Someone in that reddit thread said something interesting though, the guy was streaming directly to YouTube so it could be plausible that Google was listening to the stream audio and using that to feed into his targeting profile