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by apotheothesomai 2989 days ago
Removing something perfectly legal, because public opinion is against them is cowardly.

Being a company that advertises DDoS mitigation and then drops a customer, because they get attacked a lot, is a cop out.

Being a company that will argue that they are not responsible for what their customers post legally, while by contrast dropping customers based on their content is pretty much censorship.

Don't think for a minute that dropping Daily Stormer wasn't just about public opinion and turning bad PR into good PR.

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Cloudflare didn't drop Daily Stormer because of public opinion, but because of claims by Daily Stormer that Cloudflare supported Daily Stormer:

Our team has been thorough and have had thoughtful discussions for years about what the right policy was on censoring. Like a lot of people, we’ve felt angry at these hateful people for a long time but we have followed the law and remained content neutral as a network. We could not remain neutral after these claims of secret support by Cloudflare.[1]

Dropping them for that is 100% justified in my book.

[1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

Why couldn't have they made a public statement that they do not endorse the Daily Stormer, reasserted that Cloudflare's business is not political activism and warned them that future claims like this would lead to termination? After all, Cloudflare's CEO describes the act itself as "dangerous", as a one-time act that would never happen again(at least, until someone else does the same thing?), etc..

The CEO doesn't seem to agree with you on this being 100% justified:

> Let me be clear: this was an arbitrary decision. It was different than what I’d talked talked with our senior team about yesterday. I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet. … It was a decision I could make because I’m the CEO of a major Internet infrastructure company.

[1] https://gizmodo.com/cloudflare-ceo-on-terminating-service-to...

(I was unable to source the claims that the Daily Stormer made about Cloudflare supporting them. I seem to remember the Daily Stormer denying they made those claims. It seems pretty important to know the actual catalyst for a major breach in company policy, but it doesn't seem to be reported anywhere I looked).

> claims by Daily Stormer that Cloudflare supported Daily Stormer

claims by an anonymous person in their comments

fake excuse based on comment contents though from what i understand...