[wor3q]

Wasn't Apple the one who created the trend for non user replaceable batteries?

Or non upgradeable pcs?

Or making you dispose your perfectly good screen, when your iMac gets old?

Resale value is high due too really good marketing and brand recognition combined with high prices.

People will often buy a 3 year old iPhone instead of technically superior new Android phone for some price, just to have this brand.

[newscracker]

> People will often buy a 3 year old iPhone instead of technically superior new Android phone for some price, just to have this brand.

Not necessarily. Using one specific data point, I can also claim to make this argument invalid. The three year old iPhone will certainly, and surely, run the latest iOS, whereas the new Android phone (priced the same as a three year old used iPhone) is highly likely to have an OS that's already a year or two older and will never get updates in the future, putting the user at a much higher risk. So which is better?

[wor3q]

Compare iPhone 6 to Xiaomi mi A1 or HTC U11 life.

Both new are priced in the range of used 6.

Both run latest Android and will have updates for 3-4 years, since they both have non vendor modified Android.

[mulmen]

My 2014 RMBP is still the best laptop I have ever owned and everything before that was a Thinkpad, one of them a real IBM one. User-serviceability is overrated in general. You can still replace the battery in a MacBook, it just isn't easy. Mine is 4 years old and gets heavy daily usage and the battery is still acceptable although it is showing signs of age. I will probably look at getting it replaced next year.

My iPhone 6s is starting to act up, especially when cold but I haven't replaced the battery in that yet. I'll probably get that done this summer when the phone gets to the point it can't go a full day without a charge.

I don't care about the supposed technological superiority of a cellphone. I just want it to work. Apple seems to put more effort in to privacy and security and I like their business model more than Google's. I prefer to be a customer instead of a product.

[wor3q]

> My 2014 RMBP is still the best laptop I have ever owned

And my desktop PC is better. What's the point of this?

You can't upgrade anything on a new MBP, and every computer i had so far had at least a RAM upgrade in it's life. With Macbook, you just have to throw it away, which isn't too eco friendly, is it?

> I don't care about the supposed technological superiority of a cellphone.

Why don't you buy a Nokia 8100 then? It just works :)

[icebraining]

While I'm no Apple fan, I've replaced the charging port on my brother's 4S, and I can tell you that the "non replaceable" claim is overstated. It may not be as easy as a Nokia, but anyone with YouTube and a steady hand should be able to do it.

[wor3q]

iPhone 4 had it quite easy, take out two pentalobe (annoying, but screwdrivers are available) screws at bottom and you have access to battery.

On the other side, every other phone on the market at the time had a battery cover and toolless replacement was possible.

It got a bit harder with iPhone 5 though, since screws now secure front panel, not back to the chassis.

[saagarjha]

> Resale value is high due too really good marketing and brand recognition combined with high prices.

Which means that your old iPhone goes to someone else rather than the landfill…

> People will often buy a 3 year old iPhone instead of technically superior new Android phone for some price, just to have this brand.

Technically superior in what way?

[wor3q]

> Which means that your old iPhone goes to someone else rather than the landfill…

Your Android phone will too, you will just be paid less for it.

> Technically superior in what way?

Bigger screen with better resolution,

better camera,

faster UI,

NFC,

wireless charging,

USB-C with fastcharge,

longer battery life,

expandable storage,

and most important, possibility to install a decent web browser instead of having to rely on app for every website you visit :)