[ordinaryperson]

This comes up every so often here on HN:

"Is Meteor.js dead?" - 19 days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16622231

"Is Meteor.js still a thing?" - 5 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15624623

"Is Meteor(JS framework) is dying slowly?" - 1 year+ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303345

Personally I still use it but I think MDG made a big strategic mistake in organizing its marketing around DDP (its data protocol that allows for "real-time" updates where the database pushes messages upon update) when I find its biggest assets are its single ecosystem and overall speed.

It's hip to say Vue.js is better but you'll still need an underlying framework -- Express, Nuxt, Koa2, etc. Even if you like the features of Vue better you're likely making the life of some future developer difficult by pairing two relatively unknown frameworks whereas at least with Meteor they only have to contend with a single system.

I also like Meteor's integration with Cordova and have built a single codebase that my company uses for a website, iOS and Android apps. For a very small company like mine having just one technology to deal with the website and mobile apps makes Meteor 100% worth it.

MDG is very active in supporting the platform, just see https://github.com/meteor/meteor/releases

But I can't speak for every use case, nor am I measuring commits or StackOverflow questions so maybe it is declining. But anecdotally it isn't from my POV as a Meteor user.

[sytse]

The nice thing about Vue.js is that you can also combine it with Ruby on Rails. For the backend that gives you a very mature ecosystem. At our company that has been a great success https://about.gitlab.com/2017/11/09/gitlab-vue-one-year-late...

[aogaili]

So why not combine it with Meteor? Vue.js is mostly a client side stack and can be used easily a Meteor backend.

[icc97]

Indeed there's nothing stopping it. Meteor have tutorials for react [0] and angular [1], so although there isn't a tutorial for it, the JavaScript fundamentals of Meteor won't change if you use Vue.js.

[0]: https://www.meteor.com/tutorials/react/creating-an-app

[1]: https://www.meteor.com/tutorials/angular/creating-an-app

[ordinaryperson]

Yes, there are advantages to being decoupled from the underlying framework, as you point out.

If you're a Ruby on Rails shop, Meteor is probably not for you.

But I think people under-appreciate Meteor's value proposition of not having to piece together multiple frameworks -- especially in JavaScript world, which seemingly produces a new framework every other day.