[wiz21c]

FTA :

> Race and Ethnicity > Sexual Orientation

Could we agree that : 1/ a coder is a coder, no matter his color, his sexual orientation, his whatever 2/ the notion of "race" is problematic at best

And before I get down voted : who cares about a statistic about sexual orientation or ethnicity in a survey about IT ? I mean honestly.

[boffinism]

> who cares about a statistic about sexual orientation or ethnicity in a survey about IT

People trying to make the IT industry accessible to all regardless of sexual orientation or ethnicity, who want to check in on how we're doing at that?

[dorgo]

If you hire 50 random people (uniform distribution) the probability to get twice (or more than twice) as many employees of one sex as the other sex is about 3.5%. If you add ethnicity, age, sexual orientation etc. to the mix you will rarely get a random sample with all attributes proportional to their occurrence in population. Without quotas it will be really hard to be accessible to all regardless of [a long and ever expanding list of attributes].

[wiz21c]

Thanks for that answer !

[adgasf]

Well if the numbers of various minorities are significantly lower in our industry than the overall average, then perhaps it indicates a hostile environment that we can work on.

[dingo_bat]

It can indicate a lot of things, don't know why you would reach that particular conclusion.

[SiempreViernes]

Well, maybe adgasf saw some off the accounts[0] by minorities about how they perceive tech as a hostile environment and feel forced to leave because of the harassment?

Certainly, if you remember that minorities are reporting harassment in tech companies as a reason they leave, the demographic under representation of these must at least partially encode the scale of the problem.

[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/18/women-goo...

[ify]

Thank you for pointing this out. I don't see the relevance myself.

[atom-morgan]

And why group "white" and European descent together? Too much diversity that doesn't actually count as diversity?