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by Consultant32452 3022 days ago
If there are $15/hr jobs, why do you believe so many people are willing to accept half that to drive for Uber? I wonder what their total pay is after tips.
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Since nobody seems to have any idea how much these things actually pay after costs (see: this correction and the original study), it's plausible that people would expect this to pay more than it does.
Also, it's really difficult to define the one, right way of correcting for vehicle expenses. Some people would even work for free if it just gave them access to a high status car (live off savings while pretending to have "made it", as proven by the car). Others would be fine with any old beater, or a bike.
I would like to think that while it might be difficult to calculate my exact hourly income, I could tell the difference between $8/hr and $15/hr.
You think these people making $15/hr don't watch their actual take-home after expenses carefully?
The difficult thing to calculate in the short term is wear and tear on the vehicle. Average Joe is potentially only counting fuel and not total costs per mile.
Do you talk to Uber drivers?
No, but I worked at a pizza place for several years. Everyone was vaguely aware of the fact that they were using up car value delivering pizzas, but only a couple of older full time "career" drivers seemed to actually calculate it out so they knew what they were getting.
I think word would get around after a while.
I think it just did.
I wonder how much reach that study has among Uber drivers and potential Uber drivers.
The study might matter to us and regulators, but the thing that matters to drivers is how much they as an individual make. They had that information already, and knowing the average income doesn't help them figure out how much money they're making.
That can be confusing for drivers for some months as they may not realize the increased maintenance cost for a little while. But eventually they'll figure it out.

The evidence I can observe is consistent with the hypothesis that Uber and Lyft are paying sufficiently to motivate drivers.

Greater flexibility in hours and reduced scrutiny of immigration status are two reasons I can think of someone may knowingly prefer a lower than minimum wage job driving for Uber than making minimum wage at, say, a fast food restaurant.
This is one I hadn't considered being such a big deal. Some people/cultures have a hard time coping with strict start and stop times of traditional jobs. You can literally work any random time as an Uber driver.
Uber doesn't tell you "you'll make 15$/h".

They tell you "this drive will make you / made you 27.98$"

It makes it a lot harder or less likely for the users to compare to an actual wage, especially since the uber jobs are basically provided on a as-needed basis.

What are you even questioning? Do you think everyone knows how little it pays BEFORE the report came out?
Maybe you didn't know how much the average Uber driver makes, but any individual Uber driver would know about how much they themselves are making.