[lispm]

> A citizen of an EU country residing in Germany is under no obligation to hold a passport.

Any EU citizen needs a passport or equivalent in Germany. One needs it already when entering Germany. Though you don't need to carry it all time with you. But you need to have one.

[rasz]

>passport or equivalent

there is a big difference between passport and normal ID, EU citizens dont need passports.

[expertentipp]

A citizen of EU country has no obligation to hold a passport while in another EU country in case their country issues other document confirming both identity and nationality of a citizen e.g. a national ID.

[TomK32]

lipsm wrote "passport or equivalent" and you are jumping to "passport".

Here's the law: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/freiz_gg_eu_2004/__8.html

EU citizens in Germany have to carry a passport or equivalent.

[expertentipp]

> EU citizens in Germany have to carry a passport or equivalent.

..and no one has the right to demand explicitly passport if one is able to produce an equivalent and valid document e.g. national ID.

[lispm]

Details:

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthv/__3.html

[ccozan]

No, by law you are required to have a proper ID issued by an EU country.

No passport required, but it might be useful, since many online services require a passport, for example activating a SIM card.

[expertentipp]

> many online services require a passport

This is notorious and infuriating violation by many service providers in Germany.

[chopin]

Which ones? I never came across any. They may require a "Personalausweis" (like banks) but not a passport (which is a different thing). An EU citizen can come well by without ever needing one, as he can travel the EU by personal id alone. I only need a passport for international travel.

And that makes sense. You can be denied a passport, but not a personal id.

[socksy]

I have definitely experienced the case multiple times online where I have been denied something without a German Personalausweis or a passport. In my case, as a UK citizen I don't have a national ID card, so Passport must do, but the option is never "generic ID card" vs passport, but instead the German Personalausweis. Schufa is guilty of this, and iirc so is ImmoScout.

[TomK32]

Well, the only document internationally recognized are passports. Not every country has identity cards like the german Personalausweis, let alone there being an international standard for them like there are for the passports.

The passport is simply the international baseline.

[detaro]

Nobody would complain if they demanded a a recognized identity document (like you need to identify yourself to state representatives). There is no good reason for Schufa to demand stricter documents than the state.

[expertentipp]

> There is no good reason for Schufa to demand stricter documents than the state.

There is - they are nosy, invasive, predatory fuckers.

[expertentipp]

no