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by danbmil99 3093 days ago
"See more of Yann LeCun on Facebook" popup, no access to the page. No, I don't want to create a Facebook account to read a blog post.

Perhaps links to walled-garden pages where you need an account and need to be logged in should be prohibited or at least discouraged.

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I opened it in an Incognito window and it worked fine. Public posts on FB can be seen without logging in.
How long did you wait on the page? At first when it loads you can read it just fine, but then an obnoxious pop up appears. There is a little "not now" link on the bottom that will get you back to the post, but I can see how someone would miss that (it's a great example of a bad UI).
> it’s a great example of a bad UI

I think it’s a good example of UX that encourages visitor to sign up - which is why it exists. A part of what makes it good is precisely what you mentioned: very easy to miss the button

Agreed. I think many posters here assume that everyone has an account at FB, WSJ, NYT, and so on. The web search trick doesn't work for all of these situations either.
reg/pay-walled sites are no the only kind that should be discouraged - sites that will track you globally unless you block them globally should be discouraged too IMHO. Facebook fits both categories.
Disabling Javascript on Facebook allows you to read these public blog posts without any popups, login, or ads.
You need to up your crap-blocking game. This bookmarklet can help:

    javascript:(function() {
        (function () {
            var i, elements = document.querySelectorAll('body *');
            for (i = 0; i < elements.length; i++) {
                if (getComputedStyle(elements[i]).position === 'fixed') {
                    elements[i].parentNode.removeChild(elements[i]);}}})()})()
He is monetizing for his employer using his 100+B neuron network...
I had an option to click "not now" to dismiss.
this will get downvoted as all held, but I really think most socially apt people should have Facebook accounts these days
> "this will get downvoted as all [hell], but"

It'll have a better chance of avoiding down votes if you leave this out. It's against the guidelines:

> "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

“most socially apt people should have Facebook accounts”

This is like saying that most people who know a lot about food should regularly visit McDonalds since it is the most eaten-at restaurant.

I would venture the opposite, people who are socially apt and attuned are probably least likely to be on Facebook... they’ve likely learned enough about it to stay far, far, away.

It’s still reasonable to push discussions away from FB and walled gardens in general.
No. E.g. I'm fine with Telegram & Signal + WhatsApp & Skype for the elderly. Having no intention to become a public person, do I really need a public profile on a web site that's whole purpose is to spy on me everywhere, analyse my behavior and contacts, sell the data to others and show me ads?
I was recently testing video quality of video chats on a relatively shitty connection, and somehow Skype came out way ahead of Whatsapp and Hangouts.
I absolutely believe you. When I actually need to voice-call somebody (e.g. mom, granny or a client company CEO, all the other people I meet prefer texting) I use Skype - it does this much better than any of the competitors. So it sounds fairly probable it does video better than others too.