[cageface]

Personally, I was on the lookout for new languages to focus upon, after playing with a lot recently. And after this, Ocaml and Erlang moved to the top of the stack, past Scala and Clojure.

If your reaction is common this could be very damaging to Scala and Clojure. Both languages need a steady influx of new developers to sustain and build their current momentum. If enough potential new blood balks because of this that's definitely bad news.

The whole thing sickens me. I've been very happily back on the JVM with Scala lately.

[mhd]

Well, to be honest, after spending quite some time as a Java developer I regard the whole JVM stack as a mixed bag. Yes, you get a lot of libraries as a package deal, but most of them are rather bloated, and do require quite elaborate wrappers. And you might end up with something "good enough" and then you'll carry around the baggage for a long time.

And I think the Scala and Clojure communities will probably do fine without me. Never mind that for work I still prefer them to unadulterated Java, it's just that when I have the choice and the design choices are wholly mine, well…