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by swalsh 3134 days ago
Very cool. Not sure if your motivation is to "promote local eating" or if you're trying to build a cool product that would bring in some cash... but if you're looking to monetize, I'd pay a small amount (about the cost of a magazine) for a HIGH-QUALITY set of recipe suggestions that use 6 ingredients or less, and take ~1hr to cook. (because I cook for a family every day, I don't have all day to cook, and I don't want to buy 100 ingredients I'll only use once)

The last point is important to me. Food porn is common these days, they put out these recipes with beautiful pictures, but the recipe is so impractical I'll probably never make it. Frankly, if I never make the recipe... it's of little added value to me.

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But clearly what you mean when you say that is you really want a long-form article filled with OPs life story about how they discovered vegetables, best ways to prepare vegetables, pointers for the recipe, etc. interspersed with ads before finally delivering the recipe somewhere towards the bottom of the page (possible behind a link to a second page with the actual recipe). /s
Oh gosh those are the worst. And they never look good on your phone, so you have to get your laptop out (or tablet if you have one).

If it's not a pointless blog/article header, then the ingredients and method are split up across "tabs". So that now, when it says "melt the butter and whisk in half the flour", you need to flick back and forward multiple times for each step to remember what to do and how much to add.

My kingdom for a browser plugin that automatically identifies a recipe site and strips out everything except the actual recipe. Reader mode comes close, but you still have to scroll through all the crap (assuming the recipe is all on one page).

What gets me though is why Google suddenly felt the need to rank these sites over more established recipe sites that literally just gave you the recipe. I've been in digital marketing a long time and seen a few "waves" of major SEO updates come and go. When there seems to be a significant shift in quality for a category of results, Google does tend to eventually take action. So I wonder if we're going to see a correction at some point that stops favoring those sorts of aggregator blog posts and "long-form recipes."

The content being created is not valuable, and is clearly being done solely for rankings at this point.

If any Googlers are reading this, I'd love any additional insight as to why these sites continue to do well.

I've also wanted such an extension so after reading this comment I was finally spurred into action.

It works on a few sites I know are popular plus any that use the standard div with "itemtype" set to "http[s]://schema.org/Recipe", which seems to handle about 85% of the long-winded blogs out there. It extracts the recipe div and displays it nicely at the top of the page, dimming the site behind it. It has a button at the bottom of the recipe to dismiss the popup. Most sites include a handy print link or button at the top as well so you can quickly click through to that formatting as well (i.e. if you actually print recipes or use the Paprika recipe manager bookmarklet).

You can install the CRX directly: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sean-public/RecipeFilter/m...

I will work on it some more to have proper controls, icon, work on more sites, etc then get it into the Chrome Web Store for easy installation.

Thanks for the final push!

Wow, nice work! Please circle back here and let me know once it is officially in the store, would love to check it out and spread the word!

Honestly, this is the sort of thing that once Amazon adds a Whole Foods API for ordering, you could add an unobtrusive "order these ingredients for pickup at Whole Foods" link or something at the bottom and hopefully make some commission off of it.

Ping me when it's built and I'll help you promote it if you're interested (I'm a marketer).

they're often heavily promoted/shared - social signals seem to weigh heavily these days for SEO.

I have a clean site in a related space (https://keto.fm) and multiple subscribers have commented along the lines of: "this looked like a spam site, but once we browsed through it, it had rrally good content!"

Your request is different from the core value prop of OP's sites focus
It's a mailing list, not a unix app. I'm not going to be piping the output from this into something else. To me the core "value prop" of this is "inspiration" for things to make. Adding specifics to that seems like a natural extension.
You need inspiration to cook a vegetable?
Not everyone is aware of what's on season or how easy those things are to prepare in a way that would satisfy picky Americans.

So yes, every bit helps.

We wouldn't be having a obesity epidemic if that wasn't the case.
I wouldn't say it's inspiration that's lacking. It has more to do with the fact that vegetables are more expensive and harder to get than junk food, and the contents of said junk food, combined with factors like time and cultural trends, and of course education.
The mailing list is valuable if OP's site wants to sell seeds.
Exactly. It doesn’t make sense to build a recipes app when many already exist. All they need to do is link to allrecipes search by included ingredient, and preferably sorted by average rating. Feature added with much less effort.
This site has recipes like that. Most of them have 5 or less ingredients and take less than 30 minutes http://thestonesoup.com/blog/start-here/
> but the recipe is so impractical I'll probably never make it.

or the food amounts to cookies dipped in honey dipped in butter dipped in icing sugar.

I use cooksmarts as a recipe service. Weekly menus have reusable items. Sometimes you make double of one item one day use in the next days dinner if it stores well. Also to seasonal cooking into account.