[jgome]

It is normal (be it "lefty" democratic, or republican US presidents) for the US government to use its power to destroy other countries and steal its resources...

And yet here you are discussing "cynicism and [...] deliberate single mindedness".

As a lefty, you fail to put things in perspective... But I guess it's just not convenient, sometimes, is it?

[andybak]

You might have to reword that - I'm honestly having difficulty parsing it.

[jgome]

What I mean is exactly what I said: start by looking at the dirt your own country may have BEFORE looking at someone else's dirt. You may learn a thing or two about your government, the upper classes in your country, the racism and xenophobia they use as a way to get more power elsewhere, the reasons the other governments have to do what they do, etc.

[andybak]

I'm pretty conversant in the shitty things "my" country has done. How does that relate to the matter at hand?

PS - I'm from the UK - not US if that changes things.

I think you may be arguing with an imaginary straw man version of me. I'm not sure I stand for the things you're railing against.

[oxide]

Hey turfer, take another English course.

[jgome]

I forgot, the one and only language spoken in the whole world is english... And everyone should know it, even the small details.

As a language, it's a disaster. I better worry about more important things, and not waste more time with it.