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by pkulak 5832 days ago
I wouldn't trust the "bars" to indicate anything.
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This. If we are going to have a discussion about this, I really, really hope to at least see some dBm numbers.

From a test right now, picking up my Blackberry 8100 (antenna along the bottom) in roughly the manner I would use to hold it to my ear, I lose about 10 to 15 dBm (from around -66 to -69 to around -79 to -81), which means the received signal power drops by around 10 to 30 times. I don't know if that's particularly good or bad; I've never had problems with dropped calls.

Are there apps available that show signal strength in real numbers (dBm) instead of "bars"?
Not sure about Blackberry, but on Android: Settings / About phone / Status / Signal strength
You can always call this number from your iPhone: 3001#12345#

and put your phone in field test mode

(http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/iphone-field-test-mode-let...)

Unfortunately this capability has been removed from iOS4: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=942533. Just confirmed it on my iPhone 4.
on Blackberry it's under Options, Status
And via the API: http://www.blackberry.com/developers/docs/5.0.0api/net/rim/d...

An app that instructs the user to pick up the phone and hold it to his head as he would while talking, records the RSSI over a course of a couple of minutes, then graphs or displays the results might be an interesting weekend project.

You can do it if you've jailbroken. Haven't looked for non-jailbroken stuff.

On my 3GS, I can vary up to 20 dBm depending on how I'm holding it, how I rotate myself and/or the phone, where I'm holding it in relation to my body, etc.

Regardless of the actual numbers, the issue doesn't appear when the gap in the antenna is taped over or it is otherwise insulated (like with a bumper).

That strongly suggests to me that this is something over and above normal loss of signal caused by picking up in a hand.

Sure -- but I've also seen reports that the effect is much more pronounced in areas of spotty coverage (as measured by bars). Perhaps, even though over and above, the degradation is still acceptable with areas of good coverage.
Exactly why I'm skeptical about these reports, including my own!

(And if the old method to access the field test mode hadn't been disabled, I'd be the first to give you dBm measurements.)