[throwaway18917]

I see this a lot on Hacker News and I really don't understand why. Who cares if people "go to the club and dry-hump a stranger"? What if I like cocktail parties AND clubs? Where do I fall in your moral binary? Furthermore, what's wrong with your so-called depravity? You do realize that you just said you wanted manners without 1850s sensibilities and then proceeded to invoke those same 1850s sensibilities, right?

In other words, come down off your high horse; let people like what they like.

[huehehue]

Woah I was not trying to make a personal attack, so I don't think hating on me from a throwaway is really called for. I know that a lot of people like doing those things because I hang out with them and often do them too.

You really got me wrong. I was trying to open a dialogue on shifting norms, not assume a position of moral superiority.

[VLM]

"I was trying to open a dialogue on shifting norms"

Why can't you just LARP for fun? People do stuff like civil war encampments and renn faires because they're huge fun. A LARP club that gets dressed up and dances to the waltz sounds like an unusual, interesting time.

(Edited to add, I've not been to a SCA event but would I be correct in predicting there might be a waltz at a SCA event?)

[CapitalistCartr]

There's dancing, but its Rennaisance; the Waltz isn't period.

[vlasev]

We already dress up in ballroom dancing, whether it's for social dancing or for competition.

[throwaway18917]

> You really got me wrong.

Did I now?

> Most of the upper-class people I know would sooner go to the club and dry-hump a stranger than throw a cocktail/dinner party (much less waltz).

Quelle horreur!

> I'm all for having fun and using a salad fork to eat dessert...

Here's where you portray yourself as someone who likes to break the mold just a little bit...

> but I'd be interested to see the world with like 25% less depravity.

...and here's where you suggest that current norms are too much and that people who don't conform to your idea of wholesome, "classy" fun are depraved.

We must have different definitions of moral superiority.

[antisthenes]

The corollary to that, of course, is - don't be upset when people judge you for your choices silently or vocally or stop interacting with you.

They're just as free to pass judgment as you are to make choices that would alienate you from the others.

I don't think it reflects poorly on either party, but is just an inalienable component of human nature. It's a balance of personal choice/freedom vs societal acceptance. People fall on different parts of the spectrum and it's ok.

[draw_down]

A lot of people have boring, shitty ideas about something they call "class". Best ignored, IMO.