[dieterrams]

How knee-deep in a silly Android vs iPhone fanboy war do you have to be to write a long post addressing the supposed presumption that iPhone 4 was going to slow Android down? What sensible person is even constructing thoughts along these lines?

Many kinds of critiques, positive and negative, of both platforms are welcome. But this sort of fanboy service horse race punditry is not.

At this stage, the smartphone market is not a zero sum game. Nobody has to slow anybody down. Stop polarizing this space.

[louismg]

I agree the smartphone market is not a zero sum game, not any more than social networks, etc. I am trying to avoid a war, but explain what I am seeing. To be honest, I am rooting for both.

What I saw today was iPhone achieving parity with some of Android's features. What I also see is Android having more handsets, more manufacturers and carriers, and eventually more users. I think it is fair to say that the new iPhone was nice, but that it wasn't good enough to slow that momentum.

If it came off as fanboy, I apologize. Folks get deeply entrenched, so there's no way to make everyone happy.

[swannodette]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I've noticed that the Hacker News trolls really come out of the woodwork on Apple related submissions: in terms of the submission, senseless upvoting/downvoting and gradeschool level utterances. I suppose the general quality of the thoughtful submission/discussion on HN has to be offset by something.

[louismg]

I don't even see the option to downvote. Maybe I have to be more of a vet to get that privilege. I appreciate all discussion here, especially that which challenges my assumptions.

[runevault]

Downvote requires ~200 karma, or did when I got it a month or so ago.